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Old May 4, 2014 | 11:07 PM
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Evo MR - Build Advice/Questions

Hello,

So I have been looking through these forums for a while now, and the mod bug has finally set in!!

I have a 2014 MR currently at 5,000KM (Canada) and want to upgrade it to a reasonable amount, but nothing insane. (400/400)

Currently I only have the Cobb AP v3

This is currently what I have for a build list. I would like opinions, good and bad.

Also I am near Vancouver, so if anyone could tell me a good shop to go to (prefer one who can tune my SST as well) that would be appreciated. I am still quite new to the performance car scene.

THANK YOU!!

(I put the prices just for more of a guideline/estimate for me)
  • $1,559.85 AMS Downpipe, High Flow Cat, Cat Back
  • $1,487.49 GARRETT GTX3071R Turbo
  • $1,153.95 ETS 4" Intercooler with piping
  • $472.00 AMS 1000cc Fuel Injectors
  • $460.00 COBB Sway Bar Kit (Sale Price)
  • $290.00 COBB Springs (Sale Price)
  • $281.95 ETS Intake System
  • $115.00 COBB 3 Port
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Old May 5, 2014 | 05:40 AM
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it's not recommended to push the stock sst past about 375-380 wtq. you could easily have the tuner keep the tq down though. also not real sure you'd need injectors at all but if you do, 1000s are certainly overkill. unless you plan on going with e85 but then you'd need a pump also. and with e85 you'd probably be looking more like 450 whp. you are missing a bov/dv from your list though. and my .02 would be to go with Swift Sport Spec-R springs because they're like sex with the Bilsteins. I would probably get a set of stage 2 cams (well actually i did). you'd get some good gains with them and lope is sexy. =)
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Old May 5, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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If you're upgrading the turbo, you probably do want injectors and a fuel pump. A DW65 should be plenty for that 3071R.

Other than adding a fuel pump, it looks like a solid mod path! The car should really come alive with your choices and a nice tune. Cams, meh. Stock X cams are generally ample.

Best of luck to you!
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Old May 5, 2014 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydroyo
I have a 2014 MR currently at 5,000KM (Canada) and want to upgrade it to a reasonable amount, but nothing insane. (400/400)
  • $1,559.85 AMS Downpipe, High Flow Cat, Cat Back
  • $1,487.49 GARRETT GTX3071R Turbo
  • $1,153.95 ETS 4" Intercooler with piping
  • $472.00 AMS 1000cc Fuel Injectors
  • $460.00 COBB Sway Bar Kit (Sale Price)
  • $290.00 COBB Springs (Sale Price)
  • $281.95 ETS Intake System
  • $115.00 COBB 3 Port
I don't think I would go for the turbo upgrade before you do upgrades to the SST. I've got turbo back, intake, intercooler, piping, and boost controller in my MR and I'm getting 360/345 on dynojet with 93 pump gas. 400/400 would be attainable with injectors, fuel pump and E85 but I haven't done this yet because I worry about the SST's ability to hold up.

In my opinion do the bolt ons (minus turbo) and go for E85 if you want to push it but don't go big turbo crazy until you beef up the tranny. If the boost compels you then maybe consider a stock frame upgrade instead like the MAP EF2 instead, but honestly just save your pennies so you can go big on the SST upgrade instead.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 12:11 PM
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How long do you wan the block to last? Your SST will yield before your block, so if you do get that set up, You still run a big risk going 370wtq and higher with stock block.

Ported intake manifold might help get that bit more you'll need to get to 400.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 01:14 PM
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NOT TROLLING but can someone please explain why you bought an automatic Evo? They do not hold power in stock form, very costly to upgrade, even more costly to replace if not under warranty, and they take the "skill" out of driving. Daily driver in HEAVY traffic in a major city is only reason I can see getting an auto trans.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by roach85
NOT TROLLING but can someone please explain why you bought an automatic Evo? They do not hold power in stock form, very costly to upgrade, even more costly to replace if not under warranty, and they take the "skill" out of driving. Daily driver in HEAVY traffic in a major city is only reason I can see getting an auto trans.
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Lots of potential reasons, some more valid than others:
1) SST > manual in autocross or road coarse. Lots of performance articles prove this, supercars have it for this reason. Hell, it came from F1
2) SST more comfortable to drive in DD
3) SST allows people to drive your car who can't drive a stick

Modding the SST isn't nearly as expensive as you think to hold power. If you are in for a turbo upgrade, which you need to exceed the torque problems with the SST in most cases, you can spring for upgrade. Talk to Kozmic if you like. Labor plus parts to hold 600whp is 1300-2000 if you pull the transmission and send them the basket.

So, lots of reasons to have an SST. It takes some getting used to coming from a manual, but I like it and I like my manual. Both are fun to drive for me. My evo is more versatile, however.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 03:21 PM
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Those are valid points and I thought upgrading them was a lot more expensive. I just need to drive an X MR. Auto Evo does sound really nice for DD not going to lie. Time to find someone at a local car meet that will let me drive their X. Number 3 I did not even think about. It sucks having my setup, deathly afraid to let anyone drive my car. Afraid they will destroy my twin disc.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by roach85
NOT TROLLING but can someone please explain why you bought an automatic Evo? They do not hold power in stock form, very costly to upgrade, even more costly to replace if not under warranty, and they take the "skill" out of driving. Daily driver in HEAVY traffic in a major city is only reason I can see getting an auto trans.

we just must all be totally stupid that's why lots of new supercars also use twin clutch paddle shifters too. Everyone is just dumb.

or, if not trolling, because we are old and tired of shifting, and, TCSST will outshift any driver in the world. It's not an automatic in the traditional torque converting way, it's a twin clutch, paddle shifted transmission with an auto mode.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 03:43 PM
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IKT, yes but it is still an automatic. There is no clutch pedal. I noticed most of the posters in here had SST's so I just asked why they got an automatic. Wasn't trying to troll or get wise guy answers, was an honest question. I didn't say they were for "girls" or that it wasnt a real Evo. Was actually a legit question. And yes, your TCSST will deff shift faster than me with my 5spd.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by roach85
Those are valid points and I thought upgrading them was a lot more expensive. I just need to drive an X MR. Auto Evo does sound really nice for DD not going to lie. Time to find someone at a local car meet that will let me drive their X. Number 3 I did not even think about. It sucks having my setup, deathly afraid to let anyone drive my car. Afraid they will destroy my twin disc.
Yeah, I needed the MR so that my wife could drive it. Since I refuse to have an automatic for my own car, I told her I could settle for a twin clutch. Since I live in MN, I wanted AWD... so the list of AWD cars with twin clutch is pretty short and I ended up with the X. Love it so far!
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Old May 5, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Thanks guys for the input. Probably wont be getting the upgraded turbo yet then. And going to drop the fuel injectors. Ill stick to:

AMS Turbo Back (with HFC)
ETS 4" Intercooler with UICP/LICP (because i want to upgrade turbo later on down the line)
COBB Sway Bar Kit
Swift SPEC-R Springs
ETS Intake System
COBB 3 Port Solenoid
Do I need a BOV?

Sound better? Ill be on 94 octane.

Ill be fine with 360/360 (roughly)

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Old May 5, 2014 | 05:32 PM
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The best advice I can offer on mods for an MR is to call a reputable shop like CBRD, AMS , COBB and ask for their feedback and then digest that, especially if you want to maintain the daily driver personality. If I was to recommend one of the best performance mods you can do for your car especially if you want to Autox is a set of properly set up Ohlins with a very good tire setup. Probably the best $4k-4.5k you have ever spent.
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Old May 5, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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Yea perhaps I will call one of those. Good idea!!

Also anyone know of a tuner shop in Vancouver area?

How about Racing Greed? Ive read some about them, heard good things.

Also, how do I get my SST tuned, I have heard that is good to do and only a few people know how.

Just a bunch of questions :P

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Old May 5, 2014 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by galownia
Roach:

Lots of potential reasons, some more valid than others:
1) SST > manual in autocross or road coarse. Lots of performance articles prove this, supercars have it for this reason. Hell, it came from F1
2) SST more comfortable to drive in DD
3) SST allows people to drive your car who can't drive a stick

Modding the SST isn't nearly as expensive as you think to hold power. If you are in for a turbo upgrade, which you need to exceed the torque problems with the SST in most cases, you can spring for upgrade. Talk to Kozmic if you like. Labor plus parts to hold 600whp is 1300-2000 if you pull the transmission and send them the basket.

So, lots of reasons to have an SST. It takes some getting used to coming from a manual, but I like it and I like my manual. Both are fun to drive for me. My evo is more versatile, however.
Also if you're tall and lanky like me (6'6) the MR is the only way I could comfortably drive an Evo. I could have modified the seat I'm sure but the GSR pushed all the way back was not comfortable shifting - my knee hit the steering wheel and I was reaching too far for the shifter. I'm happy though with the SST!
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