On track mr hands down.I dont mind owing a gsr.coming from mt..the mr pays off itself at the end.Both are potent when it comes to modding.Im lovin the mr.

 

I have an mr and love it but the sst trans is more expensive to maintain and tends to fail more often than the Manuel gsr trans. No problems here yet but I have read some bad stories on the sst

 

If you can afford it and find it, get the MR with the Premium, Touring, and Navigation Package. Nicest driving EVO made.

 

I haven't owned an automatic since the Nixon administration ....
... and I still don't.

The twin-clutch in the X is a paddle operated manual, with an "automatic mode".
Gears 1,3, and 5 are on one clutch, and 2,4, and 6 on another, so when you shift, it's a matter of the computer releasing one clutch and engaging the other.
That was one of the first things I noticed on my MR: It accelerates faster than the lighter car, all due to time saved shifting.

I had an '03 EVO VIII before the X, and I have to agree with Clarkson's review of the hydraulic "damped" clutch on the manuals: "hopeless".
The clutch damper makes it virtually impossible to shift quickly in the manual.
(This was done to save the gearbox. People with STi's in '03 kept fragging the gearbox trying to side-step the clutch, not realizing that you've got four fat sticky tires gripping the ground. You don't smoke the tires, you smoke the drivetrain.)
(The 328 uses a cable operated clutch, and -- even with the external gated shifter -- it shifts faster than the EVO VIII.)

The MR's six speed is built by Getrag, who make a similar 7-speed twin clutch for the Ferrari 458 Italia.
(And the consensus is that it's a huge improvement over the Italian made "F1" paddle shifters Ferrari used earlier.)

Despite this being my first "two pedal" car since the early '70s, I love the paddle shifters.
(Other than one highway trip, I *never* use "automatic" mode.)

I was also hesitant to make the move to paddle shifters. But one thing that convinced me to try it is that you can override "automatic" mode with the paddles.
If you don't like where the computer put the revs, tug a paddle and it jumps into manual.
(Hold the paddle to restore automatic.)

You can also shift either with the paddles or by "push-pull" on the stick in the side notch.

(Besides: I still have the Italians for when I want to heel-toe. )

The only learning curve issue I had was that it down-shifts just as fast as it up-shifts.
I had to learn not to down-shift too early when approaching a stop sign or red light.

However, be warned: the EVO's twin clutch is limited on the amount of torque it'll carry.
It'll handle stock power without a problem.
But if you're going to add a lot of power to the engine with extensive mods, you should go with a gearbox that'll handle more torque.

But for a DD, the twin-clutch really is the best of both worlds.

I do think the modes are misnamed: Instead of "normal", "sport", and "super-sport", they should be called "wimpy", "normal", and "kick in the butt".

I use "sport" mode for most driving. "Super-sport" shifts abruptly enough to give a bit of a kick to the drivetrain, while "normal" has a perceptible lag in response.


I got my MR loaded. (Premium, Touring, and Nav packages.)
The 2014 Nav-Com gets live traffic from Nokia's "HERE" system, but I use it mostly as an MP3 music server, off the SD flash card.
But this is the first car where I haven't had to keep a map book under the seat.
And I can charge my phone off the USB port in the glove box while driving.

I did have one issue with the "Fast-Key" system. The dealer gave me two fobs, so I stuck one in my computer bag.
But I couldn't lock the car with the computer in the trunk -- until I took the battery out of the second fob, so the car wouldn't think I'd crawled into the trunk.

 

keep torque under 360 and you can have 400 hp on an MR no problem.

I never drive in anything but S-Sport manual unless I'm holding a drink or something. It's also advisable to drive in S-Sport manual to improve clutch life as Sport and Normal use the clutches much more to smooth out shifting between gears.

That being said, S-Sport is ultra smooth once the transmission is up to temperature.

Love the MR, it's a fantastic setup and is really not an automatic as stated

You can get leather in the GSR or MR.

When you do go for a test drive in either car -

- Let it warm up until you see at least 1 blue bar on the temp gauge. Be nice to the car!
- Put the car in S-Sport mode when test driving the MR. This means - Put it in sport then take finger off mode selection for a second, then push and hold it forward to get it to go into S-Sport for about 4-5 seconds. Then push the stick to the left to put it into manual mode. You can drive S-Sport in auto mode but it is incredibly aggressive and will shift around 7k which is very offputting unless you are intending it!

Enjoy the test drives, and be sure to take both on the highway at 65-70 and listen how loud both are. The GSR in 5th gear is much much louder.

 

100% disagree

mr for a street gsr for racing.

As soon as you start doing close to moderate and higher level racing, the MR won't worth a price, either the sst transmission.

 

What?Gtr35 use the same tech as the Mr?2k hp in the gtr u can do that same thing on the mr.u still disagree?

 

Yes.

 

I drove a stick in all of my Porsche ' s for 32 yrs. When I drove the MR I got the WOW factor. Yes I. Was impressed. I love it. When I go to Malibu I get into sport mode.
Perfect for the canyons. It's all up to you. Good luck the EVO is a great car.
Have fun shopping.

 

agreed with Rob, MR is very very nice and the choice I would make, but not for racing.. the trans is a problem, though there are mods for it. For me, I just don't want to live with a 5spd anymore, feels to dated. I think I would have been really tempted by a X had it could with a good 6 speed manual trans

 

Agree

 

Let me know when you plan to sell your CT9A

 

Which, of course, is why Formula 1, WRC, and many other race series switched to sequential transmissions years ago.


Ferrari 458 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
After all, nobody would put a Ferrari Enzo, Challenge Stradale, or 458 Italia on a racetrack.

 

now you being like a Honda Civic guys. lol
Try to justify they car with the NSX...

PS: FYI Evo MR does NOT have a race sequential transmission. Not even close.

 

the SST shifts quickly but just isn't designed to hold much torque unlike the ferraris you mention. I bet the MR would be pretty beastly if you spend $4k rebuilding the transmission but otherwise the OP is talking about a stock to stock comparison. The stock GSR 5 spd can handle more power and torque reliably than the stock MR SST.