i dont want to burst many guys bubbles here, but when you start making comments, like the SST is the way to go for racing etc is just a very bad miss information. And basically you believing in something which is not true, never mind even advocated it.
the problem is here what most newbie doesn't see , is mainly the price vs maintenance vs benefit. The SST is i have to say pretty hefty price tag on a race car. So if you want to build to be a proper race transmission from an SST, you start touching the KAPS etc transmission level. And the twist is there , the KAPS is lighter, has a lot less power loss through, more reliable - simpler - easier to maintain -fix - change and hold a lot more power etc.
SO basically the SST weight/price/ maintenance/ serviceability is defeats the purpose for racing.

It is a stellar transmission for DD and spirited driving even light to moderate tracking.
But that is straight out wrong statement when someone said it is better then a 5 speed for racing, period. Because its not. It is a transmission for enthusiast, and it is a best of the best for that.

For an example, i do rally, (besides hill-climbs and track) my car still has the original factory 5 speed in it from 2008, with 18K race miles( which is a crazy lot). Never been opened and only oil change been done. With 480 FT/TQ on dyno dynamics. (which is the lowest reading or in pair with a mustang by numbers)
You cant do that with a stock or a midly upgraded SST. There is no way around that.

i love the SST and all , but when it comes down to racing over moderate level, that is a level where you want to change the SST ASAP. and get something like KAPS. Basically for a same price tag sooner or later, but as a history shows sooner...

http://www.kaps-transmissions.com/



Rob.

ps this has been over talked million times years ago.

 

Stock clutchpack on the sst can hold 400hp max.upgrade to ssp500,600 clutch pack u should have no prob.after that is just fine tuneing.sst should hold more power when u upgrade those parts.

 

So why only 5 gears on the manual? I've read in the past that it was a space issue: adding a 6th gear makes the gearbox not as strong.

 

In the evo case it is correct.
Usually every aftermarket racing transmission gear set also using the stock housing. you can do and many times it does happen, put a sequential shifter on a top of the OEM transmission housing, to eliminate a H pattern shifting. But very few is 6 speed. Evo in racing doesn't really need a 6th gear.

 

So to sum up all the banter I would say:

Go with the MR if you don't plan on heavily modding and want a competent DD.

Go with the GSR if you may take it over 400hp. The GSR tranny is very notchy and not the quickest shifting tranny, but it does get better with miles. And will hold a good amount of power without giving you issues - the clutch of course. All of this is why I went with a GSR almost fully loaded. Because I plan on owning it for many years and it may end up as just a weekend warrior at some point.

 

I dont knoe,the sst shift smooth like the sequential gears.the 6th gear on the mr does help out on the freeway.

 

It is not about how fast and smooth it shifts and have 6th gear on the highway. I try to tell you the Sst is a best for dd and for an enthusiastic person who track oriented, but don't want to deal with mild to seriously build race car. (serious builds doesn't belong neither pleasure to drive on public road anyway)

For dd I would definitely pick over the 5 speed. The reason why I didn't picked with a street car has nothing to do disliking the Sst.

 

I can agree with this. Someone who dds this car plus track days, even if it's twice or more a month, the MR is great. But I doubt many racing teams would choose the MR for a fully dedicated track car.

 

That is crazy. Good to know it's a well built trans

 

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This not my car.The mr prob runnin without slicks,tell me this not high level racing?
Still on the mr sst 6 speed.2.5 stroker kit,e85.Im not tryin to argue with yall.Just sayin it can be modded same as gsr.

 

i cant quote some reason , but for the guy above ^^^^

No its not. i think in drag racing, the high level start under 9 sec. rather 8 sec. High level racing is not about CF hood etc. You have to have a bunch of similar car to do a same, to call one type of car being good in one type of racing, never mind better then the other. You can build one or two unique cars to reach a good level. That doesn't mean the car itself is capable to do that or close for every racers. How many DSM runs 9 sec? And how many Evo X SST?
DSM:
Also that is one type of racing which is absolutely not an Evo SST place. Pointless. Other point is, you can make EVERYTHING fast, the question is the price -reliability etc. EH.... i just told you above. Couple car wont make the case, no additional info about build time -cost etc.
Let me find a 5 speed which is faster, so that just would prove my point right there, and defeat yours, Since the GSR is still a faster one, there for using your logic the 5 MT is a better transmission for racing. So what happened with a faster shifting etc hype? This example of yours from drag racing, which is racing all about shifting time as you guys try to implant it.
Never mind when you leave the drag racing field the transmission importance starts fading a bit away, since the suspensions - brakes -handling etc starts coming into the play.You see the logic behind the racing, one thing will not win a race for you, it is all about balance between price and benefit with parts and a car overall performance.
so this is one for start:


Hence my point about making fast anything:

Also the Evo is NOT a good drag car, if you want to go big in drag, then DMS is your place and certainly not an EVO, never mind the SST. DSM is a way cheaper to achieve fast times in drag.

And all and all if your thing is drag racing only, then your are completely on the wrong market. You should start shopping something from Detroit.

press on.

 

Thanks for the info everyone! All this info has helped me with my decision making. The back and forth banter does actually help me get the info I was looking for! I gotta go with the GSR. From the info Ive gathered, it will cost an extra 6-8k to grt the MR to where I want to be. This includes purchase price and transmission uogrades.

Also, I honestly think my driving needs. Id rather take a corner at 60 than get my car under 11sec 1/4 mi. This is the reason Id love to have a rally car. This being said, Id love to put it on the line one day, and see it run some good times.

I did test drive the GSR, and I gotta admit, Im not that good at driving a Turboed car. Its definatly a different style. Not used to the delayed spool time of the turbo, and wasnt confident passing cars on the drop of a dime. Would a better turbo first this, or significantly improve it?

Besides that, the car was awesome! But I've decided I should hold off and wait to see the 2015 model before pulling the trigger. Plus it gives me more time to sell the acura.

P.s. Anyone know someone in the atlanta area who wants to buy a 2010 6MT acura TL sh-awdw/ tech?😊

 

You must not know how to drive a manual? The stock Evo doesn't have turbo lag. If that is an issue-an MR would be a better choice for you.

 

Been driving manual since I got my drivers permit. I assure you, it is not me. Turbo lag, or a drammatically different power band distribution that I am not used to. But I guess I can't be critical of myself without taking flak from forums folks. Thanks bud

 

Evo rob-its true to go with dsm for racing,if u are low budget to go fast.technology is catchin up now days.example gtr35 uses dct clutches.look up what dct is capable of,they running 7sec 8sec.