Evo X or Wrx/STI Advice wanted
Thread Starter
Newbie
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
From: North Carolina
Evo X or Wrx/STI Advice wanted
Hey. Im trying to decide between getting a Evo X or a Wrx/STI for a daily driver. My goal is 400ish awhp. I've always heard the Subaru's have issues with making higher power and being reliable so ive always leaned towards the Evos. That being said, I have another issue. I have nobody in my family that has knowledge about cars so I feel like im going in blind at this point. Their is a few options for Evos in my area and I cant decide which would be the better option. A 10,000 mile, $33,000 Evo x final edition which is stock OR a 2012 Evo X with 70,000 miles for $23,000 and it has full bolt ons and every option I want done to it. The 70,000 miles scares me but im still tempted haha. The work on the car is claimed to be done at Force Fed Performance and Slow Poke tuning (which are good shops in Florida). I feel like if the seller has all of the receipts for the work done, it wouldn't be that big of a risk but I still wanted others opinions. Please give me any advice you can and I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks!
Evolving Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 18
From: IL
Well the price difference is $10K. Factor in that the older car has everything done to it that you want. Those mods may cost you $5K to do yourself depending on what they are. So you could spend $38k to have a relatively low mileage Evo with all the bolt ons and a tune. Or spend $23K for a relatively high mileage Evo with all the bolt ons and a tune. You have to then just figure what will be the cost of fixing something if it breaks. $15K can cover quite a lot especially if you become handy with working on the car yourself. I would mostly be concerned with the condition of the older cars body. Is the body, subframes, etc. fairly rust free? No major mechanical issues? Does it still feel well put together when you drive it? I wouldn't be too scared off from doing the higher mileage one as long as you were willing and able to fix any breakdowns later.
Also STis as a track/race car are inferior in almost every way.
Also STis as a track/race car are inferior in almost every way.
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 805
Likes: 110
From: Vancouver, BC
First, please do not expect that we on the forum can give you advice. We do not know you or your background well enough to give you a piece of advice. We can only give you general information. If you need advice, you should hire a qualified buy-side advisor on car purchase. You can find these guys by Googling "professional car-buying consultant".
As general information, you should always perform a third-party inspection (pre-purchase inspection) before you decide on buying a car. You can simply call a nearby Mitsubishi dealer to schedule a pre-purchase inspection, which costs in the ballpark of $150 per car. This gives you good information, so you don't get burned by buying the wrong car. That dealer which performs the inspection will be in the best position to advise you with which used Evo X is better. The seller has vested interest in selling the car for his own gain, and you cannot rely on what he says.
Also, if you have "nobody in [your] family that has knowledge about cars", then you are not in the position to modify cars. That would be like trying to figure out how to fly an airplane with noone showing you the way. You should either keep the car stock, or going to a renowned shop that charges significantly more (such as AMS Performance, IveyTune, or CBRD) to installed a performance package. You should also join local Evo/WRX clubs, so you can start learning many things from them.
As general information, you should always perform a third-party inspection (pre-purchase inspection) before you decide on buying a car. You can simply call a nearby Mitsubishi dealer to schedule a pre-purchase inspection, which costs in the ballpark of $150 per car. This gives you good information, so you don't get burned by buying the wrong car. That dealer which performs the inspection will be in the best position to advise you with which used Evo X is better. The seller has vested interest in selling the car for his own gain, and you cannot rely on what he says.
Also, if you have "nobody in [your] family that has knowledge about cars", then you are not in the position to modify cars. That would be like trying to figure out how to fly an airplane with noone showing you the way. You should either keep the car stock, or going to a renowned shop that charges significantly more (such as AMS Performance, IveyTune, or CBRD) to installed a performance package. You should also join local Evo/WRX clubs, so you can start learning many things from them.
Last edited by Lightsaber; Jun 25, 2018 at 10:44 PM. Reason: Compliance
Hey, Welcome aboard
I say, go for it!. Have the EvOX professionally inspected & if all clear, lock & load
The EvOX has proven to be a solid performer & has a stout 4 bolt main bottom end
I say, go for it!. Have the EvOX professionally inspected & if all clear, lock & load
The EvOX has proven to be a solid performer & has a stout 4 bolt main bottom end
Evolving Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 18
From: IL
First, please do not expect that we on the forum can give you advice. We do not know you or your background well enough to give you a piece of advice. We can only give you general information. If you need advice, you should hire a qualified buy-side advisor on car purchase, such as Automatch Consulting.
As general information, you should always perform a third-party inspection (pre-purchase inspection) before you decide on buying a car. You can simply call a nearby Mitsubishi dealer to schedule a pre-purchase inspection, which costs in the ballpark of $150 per car. This gives you good information, so you don't get burned by buying the wrong car. That dealer which performs the inspection will be in the best position to advise you with which used Evo X is better. The seller has vested interest in selling the car for his own gain, and you cannot rely on what he says.
Also, if you have "nobody in [your] family that has knowledge about cars", then you are not in the position to modify cars. That would be like trying to figure out how to fly an airplane with noone showing you the way. You should either keep the car stock, or going to a renowned shop that charges significantly more (such as AMS Performance, IveyTune, or CBRD) to installed a performance package. You should also join local Evo/WRX clubs, so you can start learning many things from them.
As general information, you should always perform a third-party inspection (pre-purchase inspection) before you decide on buying a car. You can simply call a nearby Mitsubishi dealer to schedule a pre-purchase inspection, which costs in the ballpark of $150 per car. This gives you good information, so you don't get burned by buying the wrong car. That dealer which performs the inspection will be in the best position to advise you with which used Evo X is better. The seller has vested interest in selling the car for his own gain, and you cannot rely on what he says.
Also, if you have "nobody in [your] family that has knowledge about cars", then you are not in the position to modify cars. That would be like trying to figure out how to fly an airplane with noone showing you the way. You should either keep the car stock, or going to a renowned shop that charges significantly more (such as AMS Performance, IveyTune, or CBRD) to installed a performance package. You should also join local Evo/WRX clubs, so you can start learning many things from them.
I also learned about cars by modifying my Evo. Before that I had never worked on a car. To be fair I am generally handy and like to take the time to learn stuff. There is a ton of forum/YouTube stuff out there on how to do basic stuff. Putting on an exhaust or intake isn't rocket science.
my number one piece of advice is Evo>STI
Eh, I don't see how not having car people in your family relates in the slightest. There are groups you can join, writeups to read, youtube videos to watch. People meet up at someone's place to work on eachother's cars on a weekend. Most things have been done, and the Evo is a 10 year old car, so not too many surprises. Conversely, the WRX/STi community is very lively so you'll easily get help, whether it's reddit, forums, or facebook.
As far as which one to buy, why not look at a lower mileage GSR? Final Editions carry a bit of a premium, and you'll likely replace the parts that differentiate it with your own anyway. We don't even know whether the FE is stretching your budget, how much you have left for repairs, etc. I'd look for a GSR with fewer miles but already with some mods you would do yourself anyway. That should put you in the high $20s for price. And again, having any work done at reputable shops would be preferred, as you don't want to deal with some backyard mechanic bolting stuff in.
As far as which one to buy, why not look at a lower mileage GSR? Final Editions carry a bit of a premium, and you'll likely replace the parts that differentiate it with your own anyway. We don't even know whether the FE is stretching your budget, how much you have left for repairs, etc. I'd look for a GSR with fewer miles but already with some mods you would do yourself anyway. That should put you in the high $20s for price. And again, having any work done at reputable shops would be preferred, as you don't want to deal with some backyard mechanic bolting stuff in.
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 805
Likes: 110
From: Vancouver, BC
I feel comfortable giving advice based on my experiences and what the OP put in his question. It is up to the OP to determine if the advise is sound. What's the point in having a forum if we can't give advice?
I also learned about cars by modifying my Evo. Before that I had never worked on a car. To be fair I am generally handy and like to take the time to learn stuff. There is a ton of forum/YouTube stuff out there on how to do basic stuff. Putting on an exhaust or intake isn't rocket science.
my number one piece of advice is Evo>STI
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
Trending Topics
Advice means you take on fiduciary duty when you help the OP. If he relies on your advice and suffers a loss later, you are at least partially liable. If he does decide to file a claim against you, you may have to pay.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
Advice means you take on fiduciary duty when you help the OP. If he relies on your advice and suffers a loss later, you are at least partially liable. If he does decide to file a claim against you, you may have to pay.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
Section 230 states the following:
Effectively, this section immunizes both ISPs and Internet users from liability for torts committed by others using their website or online forum, even if the provider fails to take action after receiving actual notice of the harmful or offensive content.
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 805
Likes: 110
From: Vancouver, BC
Im no attorney, but was under the impression that the CDA (Communications Decency Act) covers opinions & all other free speech issues on the internet
Section 230 states the following:
Effectively, this section immunizes both ISPs and Internet users from liability for torts committed by others using their website or online forum, even if the provider fails to take action after receiving actual notice of the harmful or offensive content.
Section 230 states the following:
Effectively, this section immunizes both ISPs and Internet users from liability for torts committed by others using their website or online forum, even if the provider fails to take action after receiving actual notice of the harmful or offensive content.
a) I am not a professional mechanic;
b) I gave the advice for free and he did not pay me to begin with.
However, if I give the same advice while claiming I have been working on my own car and I'm a self-taught mechanic, the situation can be different. In such case, if I get a suit, at the very least I may be ordered to stop making such a claim. This is similar to that I might get away giving free legal advice online, but I might not get away doing so if I give such advice and at the same time claim to be a self-taught lawyer. There is an interesting read on Harv. J.L. & Tech. that can be accessed here: http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/articles...vJLTech657.pdf
Of course, I would not want to derail the thread just because reply #5 made an argument against me. The OP's question is what Evo/WRX/STI he should buy, and how much he should modify the car for daily driving. As voiced above, my opinion is that he should go with a car with everything checked out by a third-party inspection (pre-purchase inspection), and keep the car either stock-ish or tried-and-true performance package-only for daily driving.
Evolving Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 18
From: IL
Advice means you take on fiduciary duty when you help the OP. If he relies on your advice and suffers a loss later, you are at least partially liable. If he does decide to file a claim against you, you may have to pay.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
I wouldn't. But you can of course give much advice as you deem appropriate.
None of us have held ourselves out as anything but amateurs let alone that this thread is being held on an "enthusiast" messageboard. If the world truly functioned as you believe then no one anywhere, at any time, would be able to give advice on anything, except as a licensed professional in an official capacity. Someone here took Business Law 101 and now thinks they are an expert.
The OP essentially asked what sounds better high mileage cheap car, or low mileage expensive car. Answering that with a "we'll here is what I think the pros and cons are" or a "if it were me" is not the same thing as saying "I have looked up the cars based on the VINs and done an inspection based on the listing and the photos, and to the best of my knowledge as a person with extensive knowledge in these cars, definitely get car A. You can't go wrong".
You were the first to respond to the OP after me and your first words were "First, please do not expect that we on the forum can give you advice". I've never seen a response like that before. Why are you even on the forums?
Last edited by DeweyD; Jun 25, 2018 at 09:54 PM.
Evolving Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 18
From: IL
First, please do not expect that we on the forum can give you advice. We do not know you or your background well enough to give you a piece of advice. We can only give you general information. If you need advice, you should hire a qualified buy-side advisor on car purchase, such as *****************.
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 805
Likes: 110
From: Vancouver, BC
I can definitely put a disclaimer here today. Any external links and websites I post that are third party contents are not in any way associated with EvolutionM or myself. These links and websites are for information only and forum members and guests are strongly recommended to use their own discretion when using such third party information. Neither EvolutionM nor I endorse the contents in these links and websites.
Evolving Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 266
Likes: 18
From: IL
I removed your link in the quote again but maybe you should read #4 of the forum rules. I may be interpreting it wrong however. This just smells like advertising to me.
Evolved Member
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 805
Likes: 110
From: Vancouver, BC
