How to turn off Daytime Running Ligths
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FYI
"United States
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda equipped both the Accord and new Civic with DRLs, and beginning in the 2008 model year the Pilot, S2000, and Odyssey will be so equipped[citation needed].
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. (where motorcycles have since 1976 been wired so that low beam headlamp is on whenever the engine is running—not as a matter of law, but by voluntary industry action). Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candela, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada's initial proposal.[6][7] The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.[8] Motorcyclists have objected that DRLs on autos will reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and the debate has been complicated by studies showing no safety benefit to DRLs on motorcycles[9]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime...#United_States
So it looks like this all started because GM wanted to save production costs.
"DRLs were first mandated in Scandinavian countries, where ambient light levels in the winter are generally low even during the day. Sweden was the first country to require widespread DRLs in 1977."
"United States
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda equipped both the Accord and new Civic with DRLs, and beginning in the 2008 model year the Pilot, S2000, and Odyssey will be so equipped[citation needed].
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. (where motorcycles have since 1976 been wired so that low beam headlamp is on whenever the engine is running—not as a matter of law, but by voluntary industry action). Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candela, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada's initial proposal.[6][7] The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.[8] Motorcyclists have objected that DRLs on autos will reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and the debate has been complicated by studies showing no safety benefit to DRLs on motorcycles[9]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime...#United_States
So it looks like this all started because GM wanted to save production costs.
"DRLs were first mandated in Scandinavian countries, where ambient light levels in the winter are generally low even during the day. Sweden was the first country to require widespread DRLs in 1977."
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Thanks for the info.
I new I read data that stated there is no benefit from DRL proven.
QUOTE=nytejade;6251470]FYI
"United States
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda equipped both the Accord and new Civic with DRLs, and beginning in the 2008 model year the Pilot, S2000, and Odyssey will be so equipped[citation needed].
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. (where motorcycles have since 1976 been wired so that low beam headlamp is on whenever the engine is running—not as a matter of law, but by voluntary industry action). Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candela, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada's initial proposal.[6][7] The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.[8] Motorcyclists have objected that DRLs on autos will reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and the debate has been complicated by studies showing no safety benefit to DRLs on motorcycles[9]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime...#United_States
So it looks like this all started because GM wanted to save production costs.
"DRLs were first mandated in Scandinavian countries, where ambient light levels in the winter are generally low even during the day. Sweden was the first country to require widespread DRLs in 1977."[/QUOTE]
I new I read data that stated there is no benefit from DRL proven.
QUOTE=nytejade;6251470]FYI
"United States
General Motors, interested in reducing the build variations of cars for the North American market, began lobbying the DOT (United States Department of Transportation) to permit DRLs in the United States shortly after Canada required them. A prolonged regulatory battle was fought, with the DOT objecting on grounds of potential safety drawbacks and glare issues. Eventually, however, these objections were set aside and DRLs of the same types allowed in Canada (save for fog lamp DRLs) were legalized but not mandated effective with the 1995 model year. General Motors immediately equipped most (and, in following years, all) of its vehicles with DRLs beginning with the Chevrolet Corsica. Saab, Volkswagen, Volvo, Suzuki and Subaru gradually introduced DRLs in the U.S. market beginning in 1995. In recent years, Lexus has installed high-beam or turn signal based DRLs on US models. Some Toyota models come with DRLs as standard or optional equipment, and with a driver-controllable on/off switch. Starting in the 2006 model year, Honda equipped both the Accord and new Civic with DRLs, and beginning in the 2008 model year the Pilot, S2000, and Odyssey will be so equipped[citation needed].
Public reaction to DRLs, generally neutral to positive in Canada, is decidedly mixed in the U.S. (where motorcycles have since 1976 been wired so that low beam headlamp is on whenever the engine is running—not as a matter of law, but by voluntary industry action). Thousands of complaints regarding glare from DRLs were lodged with the DOT shortly after DRLs were permitted on cars, and there was also concern that headlamp-based DRLs reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and that DRLs based on front turn signals introduce ambiguity into the turn signal system. In 1997, in response to these complaints and after measuring actual DRL intensity well above the 7,000 cd limit on vehicles in use, DOT proposed changes to the DRL specification that would have capped axial intensity at 1,500 candela, a level nearly identical to the European 1,200 cd and identical to the initially-proposed Canadian limit. During the open comment period, thousands of public comments were received by DOT in support of lowering the intensity (or advocating the complete elimination of DRLs from U.S. roads). Automaker sentiment generally ran along predictable lines, with European automakers experienced at complying with European DRL requirements voicing no objection to the proposal, and North American automakers vociferously repeating the same objections they raised in response to Canada's initial proposal.[6][7] The DOT proposal for DRL intensity reduction was rescinded in 2004.[8] Motorcyclists have objected that DRLs on autos will reduce the conspicuity of motorcycles, and the debate has been complicated by studies showing no safety benefit to DRLs on motorcycles[9]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daytime...#United_States
So it looks like this all started because GM wanted to save production costs.
"DRLs were first mandated in Scandinavian countries, where ambient light levels in the winter are generally low even during the day. Sweden was the first country to require widespread DRLs in 1977."[/QUOTE]
A CJ Lancer owner was fitting the HIDs to his car and setting up the DRLs. Changed wiring harness, added relays and fuses so it matched the same setup as the factory but couldn't get his DRLs to work untill the dealer went into the car menu with that mitsuIII tool and set the DRL function to 'on'. Get your dealer to change the drl setting from 'On' to 'OFF'
A CJ Lancer owner was fitting the HIDs to his car and setting up the DRLs. Changed wiring harness, added relays and fuses so it matched the same setup as the factory but couldn't get his DRLs to work untill the dealer went into the car menu with that mitsuIII tool and set the DRL function to 'on'. Get your dealer to change the drl setting from 'On' to 'OFF'
Yup.. on the HID version, you can just pull a fuse. On the non-HID version, you should just use the MUT-III tool to disable them. It's under the "etacs-ecu" menu. I can't have DRL's at my job when I come through the security gate, so the dealer is turning them off for me.
As soon as he pulls into 
there going to be like 
"what's up with the DRL's??" check the fuses and then 
BAM sorry sir but you modified your car, FULL CAR WARRANTY is now VOID..
DRL's are actually not that BAD, infact I feel safer with them and wish it were stock option on the IX's..
there going to be like "what's up with the DRL's??" check the fuses and then BAM sorry sir but you modified your car, FULL CAR WARRANTY is now VOID.. DRL's are actually not that BAD, infact I feel safer with them and wish it were stock option on the IX's..
Refer to the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act of 1975.
Summary - They can deny work on a specific part that requires replacement if they can prove that what you did lead to it's failure, but not void the ENTIRE warranty.
