Based on the user manual for the 2019 SDA it supports the PUNCH feature and audio control screen settings that look functionally similar/identical to the 2014-2015 MMCS, so it should integrate completely with the Rockford equipped cars and sound the same. I just wanted to comment that it appears to be designed for the Rockford system to the extent the previous headunits are. Obviously others here who have done it with the Rockford system seem to think it sounds as good and I'll update with my own opinion soon - but I am expecting it to sound the same.

 

Can you confirm that the "Vehicle Info" and "Vehicle Settings" icons do in fact appear and what happens if you go into those? Does any of that stuff (Vehicle Info: Fuel Consumption, Eco Info and History Info TABS) (Vehicle Settings - bunch of ETACS options) work?

I have discovered some additional pinouts for the 16 pin connector other than it's use solely for the microphone beyond those depicted in the link to the SDA pinout posted in the OP. That said I don't believe the 2014-2015 Lancers supported these functions with the 2014-2015 MMCS Nav unit so I doubt it would be of use with the SDA. Unless someone has figured out how to make the CANBUS and ETACS stuff work already with the 2014-2015 MMCS I don't know about. I'll post the pinout info anyway, I believe it pertains to the Outlander.

PIN 51, TX-C, CANBOX DATA TX, CONDITION: Ignition switch: ACC Position, Terminal 5VDC
PIN 52, SH-C, SHIELD (CAN BOX DATA), CONDITION: Always, Terminal 1V or less
PIN 59, RX-C, CAN BOX DATA RX, CONDITION: Ignition switch: ACC Position, Terminal voltage: 2 - System voltage(DC)
PIN 60, CK-C, CAN BOX DATA CLX, CONDITION: Ignition switch: ACC Position, Terminal voltage: 1 - 5V (DC)

I believe these connect to the 14 pin CAN BOX unit some Mitsu MMCS's have attached, the CAN BOX in turn also connects to CAN-LOW and CAN-HIGH. I'm not currently sure about connecting to 2014-2015 Evo's or why Mitsu removed this connection/functionality after 2013. Based on the 2016 MMCS manual it looks like they may have restored this functionality in 2016-2017 Lancers as the 2016 MMCS manual doesn't denote the functionality to only be on some models. It's a rabbit hole I continue down.

 

While looking into various this and remembering you saying this I stumbled across something. On the 8 pin connector the OP links to the SDA (which appears to be diagram for Outlander 001 & 006 SDA's) pins 42-43 are listed as blank(unused). While looking at the pinouts for a MMCS (shown as being for Lancer, ASX/RVR/Outlander Sport, Pajero, Pajero Sport) shows the following on the 8 pin:

PIN 42, CAMERA DETECT, CONDITION: Ignition switch: ON position & Selector lever: R position, 0 - 5 V (DC)
PIN 43, PS-R, CONDITION: Ignition switch: ON position & Selector lever: R position, System voltage (DC)

Since 005 SDA's are for 2018-2019 ASX/RVR/Outlander Sport models I assume they must actually use PINS 42 & 43 just like Lancers while 001 & 006 SDA's do not use these PINS. Pin 46 on both is the camera signal which is why it must still show an image in diagnostic mode. I see no equivalent pins on the Outlander SDA (001 & 006) and am not sure how they determine the vehicle is in Reverse. PIN 41 also requires Condition: Selector lever: R position but this pinout shows the same for MMCS and SDA 001,005 & 006.

Perhaps someone can check if our vehicles actually output 6.5V on PIN 41 when put into Reverse, perhaps only the Outlander do this and it's how their head units know they are in Reverse. Even tho the input on all head units for PIN 41 is listed as the same if a Reverse signal happens on PIN 43 perhaps SDA 005 ignores the requirement on PIN 41 but this is complete speculation. To clarify _perhaps_ SDA 005 uses PIN 43 to tell if vehicle is in R and SDA 001/006 use PIN 41 while SDA 005 just ignores PIN 41 even tho it is capable of accepting the input.

 

Here are links to the TERMINAL VOLTAGE/PIN OUT for 2017-2019 RVR/ASX/Outlander Sport SDA 8741A005 (aka SDA 005) and 2018-2019 Outlander/Outlander PHEV 8741A001 & 8741A006 (aka SDA 001 or SDA 006). OP only had link to 001/006 and it seems between the two pin outs Mitsubishi has relabeled pin numbers between the 18 and 20 pin connectors as well as additional pins being used on the 8-pin connector as I noted previously.

SDA 005 SDA 005 TERMINAL PIN OUT
SDA 001 & 006 SDA 001 & 006 TERMINAL PINOUT

Note: 006 is listed by Mitsubishi to supersede/replace 001 with both listed as being for 2018-2019 Outlander and Outlander PHEV, I only _ASSUME_ they are both the same in regards to PIN outs.

Note: this also confirms what I guessed above about PINS 42 & 43 on the SDA 005 being used while not used on the 001 & 006

 

thanks...Good to hear. So for the RF system, is it just plug and play, no extra cables? I imagine I'd need a cable for the GPS, but will all other cables connect? Everything is stock RF but I did add a camera using the stock port on the RF radio. Is there a cable on the market for conversion on the GPS?

thanks again
Paul

 

In regards to the backup camera: (1) Did you add an OEM style backup camera or aftermarket yellow RCA style? and (2) What SDA are you using? My understanding is it depends what SDA headunit is being used, 005 should just work with OEM or aftermarket backup cam while 001 or 006 likely needs a CANBUS adapter and still may only work with OEM style camera (some people report problems with aftermarket cam even with CANBUS adapter).

I personally have a 005 headunit and no backup cam (installed yet) so I can't confirm any of this personally, my primary interest in all this is restoring Outlander SDA CANBUS/ETACS functionality with 2014-2015 Evos for bling factor. My personal install is a 2015 FE with factory RF without factory NAV + Mitsu NAV install kit and a 2019 Outlander Sport 005 SDA. I do have one of those aftermarket tail lamp/camera combo's that uses RCA and the 8 pin SDA to aftermarket RCA cam pass thru for the headunit. My radio area will be apart soon so I can plug this in to see if this works for you - I haven't wanted to pull the car apart to run a wire front to rear.

If you have a non nav car with Rockford system (or maybe without RF) and need the Mitsu navigation upgrade kit with the wiring harness and gps antenna/module let me know I have a brand new extra kit.

As for the GPS antenna/module, if you already have a Lancer GPS antenna the easiest thing to do is take a bastard file and shave the grey plastic connector down - I did this in about 5 mins, it is super easy and fits perfectly. Alternatively I've heard of people just removing the grey connector end completely - but the file/shave method is so minor and so much better. People have also bought a gps antenna/module with a green connector, but honestly the green connectors are like 80 cents. I will take and attach picture(s) soon for you.

 

Glad you all are digging further! I can confirm that on the 005 head unit, an OEM style back up camera will work. I created my own harness that ran to the license plate mounted camera using the following diagram. If you have the trunk mounted camera this should be plug and pay and you will already have the harness installed.






I would love it if someone were able to get the can bus adapter to work! A Russian forum has a lot details on how to make a can bus adapter, but with the war in Ukraine, it has been hard to order and produce. https://forum.kolyandex.su/viewforum.php?f=5. If someone could also figure it out for the ROW and share the adapter design and code, that would be awesome. I am a lowly mechanical engineer, and would be better if someone with CS/EE could work on this lol.

The link should give whoever takes on this endeavor a huge head start. You could also try contacting kolyandex and see if they are willing to share the circuit board design, but I did not have much luck doing that. Here is the GitHub for the adapter, and below are some images of the PCB I have acquired. https://github.com/kolyandex/CAN-to-...icel-for-stm32. The same thing can possibly be accomplished with an Arduino as well, but I am not willing/unable to solve this. Be real cool if someone did.





Other notes:
* shaved gps is required or make an adapter
* RF audio imo is identical and actually includes more audio modifying options

 

I have been in contact with Kolyandex (Fadeev Nikolay) and ordered CANBUS adapters from him. He has told me they will work with 2014-2015 models, but I will believe it when I have my hands on it, as I believe Russian models did not change wiring after 2013 like USDM did. He has told me his CANBUS adapters will make a factory backup camera work with a 001 and 006 SDA via CANBUS on Lancers. He is out of stock of adapters until about mid January (2025). Some people with Outlanders have even retrofitted nose cameras, side mirror cameras and birds eye view with his adapter and these SDA headunits.

I'm not personally commenting on the audio quality with Rockford system as I am currently waiting for my OEM USB cable to come from Japan.

The rear view camera adapter passthrough I have is made by Herofix and listed as for 2013-2020 Outlander and ASX (aka Outlander Sport/RVR), I will post once I confirm it works. Here are some links for it:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/135203501118

 

Is that an aftermarket camera that is RCA? Is it the one that is half camera half license plate light that replaces one of the license plate lights and if so did you have to shim it to get it low enough? Any link to what camera it is?

 

I have the full RF system. Nav, subwoofer and amp and speakers. The camera is rca style aftermarket but I have an adapter I bought on Amazon that plugs the camera into the adapter with power and RCA and converts it to that small gray adapter on the back of the stock RF radio. I can get a picture if needed. With that adapter, my camera became plug and play.

 

I assume an aftermarket camera would work, but I wired up an OEM style camera (4 or 5 cable camera) screwed into the camera half license plate light that replaces one of the license plate lights. I think you can make an RCA camera work in the same manner if you cut open the RCA cable and directly pin it in. Either way, I believe it does the same thing. I have to redo my harness, and when I do I will provide more info.

Alright, I am going to reach out to Kolyandex too, but will need to confirm whether sanctions limit my ability to buy.

 

How did you guys get your SXM antenna cable to reach the SDA? Mine seems about ~65cm too short. I've completely unplugged the SXM module on the passenger side. Do I just need to undo the antenna cable from everywhere it is taped and it will then reach? I didn't want to risk it so I ordered an extension cable but if the cable can actually reach by itself I'll re-route it when I take the SDA out to install my USB cable.

Also, if I remove the SXM module, can one or both of it's brackets also be removed? (upper looks possible by removing a nut and bottom bracket looked shared with something else if I remember right?)

Also, without a backup camera is there any point in plugging the 8 pin connector into the SDA, mine was taped with blue tape to the main harness (with 20 and 18 pin connectors) and not used on my factory head unit even tho it had an 8 pin connector, it has 3 pins wired from factory 43(PS-R shift lever position),44(battery+),48(ground). Seems fine not connected, I assume if I plug it in I'll end up with a black screen when reversing or something? lol

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16569213808...&segname=13017

That is what I got and just ran the extension to the footwell.

You can plug it in, but I don't think it will do anything unless there is also a video feed being received.

 

Thanks for confirming I am not crazy, I thought everyone else somehow made their cable reach lol

Here is a link to the one I got in case anyone needs in the future also, recommend the 100CM option as 50CM is likely too short. If link(s) die in future description is "Fakra Antenna Extension Cable"
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000517634882.html

 

Does anybody else notice that the fan on their SDA turns on by the time it starts up and gets to the icons and seems to run at a high speed and never shuts off? Perhaps I only noticed because (a) I have never put the head unit surround back on yet and (b) car is away for winter so it's not running lol, but I put my hand back there to confirm and it was blowing air and it does seem fairly loud and noticeable when no music is playing. My factory head unit also had a fan but I don't recall ever hearing/noticing it. My garage is also cool, heated to around ~15C / 59 F so there is no external heat.