Tires for Rain?
Rain tires. http://www.americastire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
Later, Ken

I've run siped tires for a few years now and can can tell you they wear pretty well. I would also say that dry traction is a little less but I have 3 sets of rims and 4 sets of tires and the fact is it's all a trade off.
Last edited by cfdfireman1; Nov 17, 2008 at 08:55 PM.
Along these same lines, Mitsu for 09 has changed from Yoko to Dunlop the consequences of which are beneficial for us 08 X'ers down the road. See my post for details:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=378722&page=3
Later, Ken
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=378722&page=3
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
I hear what you are saying but the fact remains that the OP wanted an equivalent or better rain tire than OEM. Now TireRack has stated via their definition that Extreme Performance tires like the Direzza Sport Z1 compromise wet traction whereas Maximum performance tires are "unsurpassed in wet and dry". Now I am assuming that this means wet performance is superior to the latter relative to the former.
Now to your point of dry traction. Traction on dry surfaces is related to the UTQG rating. I think it is measure of/related to the softness of the tire surface. The lower the number, the softer the tire and presumably better traction. The Direzza has UTQG value of <b>200</b> while the OEM Yoko <b>180</b>. So from this rating difference, albeit our 20 points again, the Yoko is softer and, therefore, should grip better than the Direzza; at worst, it is equivalent. That is, the dry traction may be the same for these two tires so you are not necessarily "stepping down" when going to Ultra high performance tire. At this point you may say, "But the tread design is also important to the traction". I totally agree and we, the consumer, get a picture of the tread pattern from the manufacturer as the only measure of this important aspect of a tire. In short, this information is qualitative and completely inconsistent and uninterpretable relative to the quantitative parameters (like UTQG) supplied for each tire. Given these problems and the inability to test all tires both within and between the classes defined by TireRack/tire industry on the same vehicle with the same driver, it is very difficult to say this tire is better than that one. We are all stabbing in the dark when trying to decide on tires and IMHO this is exactly where the tire companies want us: confused and vulnerable to their hype.
Later, Ken
Now to your point of dry traction. Traction on dry surfaces is related to the UTQG rating. I think it is measure of/related to the softness of the tire surface. The lower the number, the softer the tire and presumably better traction. The Direzza has UTQG value of <b>200</b> while the OEM Yoko <b>180</b>. So from this rating difference, albeit our 20 points again, the Yoko is softer and, therefore, should grip better than the Direzza; at worst, it is equivalent. That is, the dry traction may be the same for these two tires so you are not necessarily "stepping down" when going to Ultra high performance tire. At this point you may say, "But the tread design is also important to the traction". I totally agree and we, the consumer, get a picture of the tread pattern from the manufacturer as the only measure of this important aspect of a tire. In short, this information is qualitative and completely inconsistent and uninterpretable relative to the quantitative parameters (like UTQG) supplied for each tire. Given these problems and the inability to test all tires both within and between the classes defined by TireRack/tire industry on the same vehicle with the same driver, it is very difficult to say this tire is better than that one. We are all stabbing in the dark when trying to decide on tires and IMHO this is exactly where the tire companies want us: confused and vulnerable to their hype.
Later, Ken
Later, Ken
i was told by a michelin rep. that the threadware rating only applies to that company, and that i couldnt compare michelin's 200 threadware rating to dunlops 200 threadware rating, ...
Later, Ken
Last edited by KPerez; Dec 9, 2008 at 08:12 AM.






