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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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KW 3 on the X...help.

Can anyone chime in some inputs. I feel that the KW's (even on the softest settings dampening and rebound) are still somewhat stiff.
maybe I need to raise up the X a little so there will more spring play? I have 1 finger gap on the rear and 2 finger gap on the front.

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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Since you're in close proximity to Robispec you should contact him and perhaps have him set it up. Just an idea....
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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shouldnt feel that way... at its softest setting, KWs feel floaty... even at 1 finger gap all around. I would continue playing with the settings or have it professionally tuned. You can also try Darin at West End Alignment since he will be closer to you..
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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+ 1 for Darrin @ West End Alignment.

Def one of the best in So Cal.

If you can make the trip out to the Desert, I would say have RobiSpec take a look, if you want local, go to Darrin.

-Chris
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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thanks alot for the input guys!
Im thinking about having Robi set it up. I spoke to Darrin at west end, they only do corner balancing and alignment.
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Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Robi's specifications are different than off the shelf KWV3's utilizing different spring rates and valving. At least he can give you a good starting point as well as a good allignment and corner balance while you are there.

IMHO, it is almost impossible for a more stiffly valved and sprung car to ride as "comfortable" as a stock spec. On spring rate alone, you are asking a 400-650lb spring (most coilovers) to act like a 150-250lb spring (stock rate). It just wont happen. However, some coilovers do a very good job at controlling the springs movement, better than the stock shock can do, and ride can be perceived as comfortable, and sometimes better in certain circumstances. Although there will always be that section of road that you definately know you have coilovers on.

Depending on your spring rate and style of driving, you have over one hundred independant rebound and compression combinations front and rear that will drive most people crazy trying to figure out what is the "best" setting for each independantly. Most will actually make their car slower at the track. Start in the middle and work you way in each direction, making notes along the way. Plan on spending some time dialing them in, or pay someone like Robi to do it for you as he has already done the homework.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 02:59 AM
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Maybe you got it the other way around?
From my previous experience with KW, they make very comfortable coilovers, even at stiff settings, they absorb bumps very well, they're even better than the stock setup.
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by smgevo
Robi's specifications are different than off the shelf KWV3's utilizing different spring rates and valving. At least he can give you a good starting point as well as a good allignment and corner balance while you are there.

IMHO, it is almost impossible for a more stiffly valved and sprung car to ride as "comfortable" as a stock spec. On spring rate alone, you are asking a 400-650lb spring (most coilovers) to act like a 150-250lb spring (stock rate). It just wont happen. However, some coilovers do a very good job at controlling the springs movement, better than the stock shock can do, and ride can be perceived as comfortable, and sometimes better in certain circumstances. Although there will always be that section of road that you definately know you have coilovers on.

Depending on your spring rate and style of driving, you have over one hundred independant rebound and compression combinations front and rear that will drive most people crazy trying to figure out what is the "best" setting for each independantly. Most will actually make their car slower at the track. Start in the middle and work you way in each direction, making notes along the way. Plan on spending some time dialing them in, or pay someone like Robi to do it for you as he has already done the homework.

smgevo, im working my way for now to get the best set up for me, too bad KW doesnt have the settings for the X on their website. Good thing I got the instructions (from the IX) on how to soften and harden the rebound/dampening. I thought it was difficult, but it was easy, making some notes on the setting along the way. Im just waiting for Robi to schedule another setup in EDO performance (H. beach) so i can have him take a look at it.

seven_227, the adjustments are confusing at first, good thing I got the set-up instruction on KW website.


I did some adjustments on height, dampening and rebound. Let's see if it has some improvements.

Appreciate the info and help guys....
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Hi, I just instaled mine on X today, and there is KW setup instruction for X. Front: Rebound 6 clicks open from hardest. Bump 0,75 turns open from hardest. Rear: Rebound 12 clicks open from hardest. Bump: 1,00 turns open. This is the recomendation to start with. Hope this helps.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 04:33 PM
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Hi, I just instaled mine on X today, and there is KW setup instruction for X. Front: Rebound 6 clicks open from hardest. Bump 0,75 turns open from hardest. Rear: Rebound 12 clicks open from hardest. Bump: 1,00 turns open. This is the recomendation to start with. Hope this helps.

yeah this is what i got...from the IX huh...
i adjusted the height 2 finger gap rear, 2.5 front
FRONT: rebound- 13 (open) clicks from hardest, bump 1.25 turns
REAR: rebound -15 clicks (open) from hardest, bump 1.25 turns

rides like stock!!!!

thanks alot guys!!!!

Last edited by markg1018; Mar 17, 2009 at 08:27 PM.
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Pictures?
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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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ill post some pics for sure.
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Old Mar 18, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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Few quick ones from my cellular. Sorry for quality.



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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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How do you adjust rebound on the KWs for the rear?

any images of the top adjustment? do they give you a tool that can reach easily through the trunk?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Offtopic, but do you use your stock top mounts with these KWs?
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