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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:24 PM
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-5 is quite a bit of camber.

If your steering response is low, you need to adjust your caster. Also, you need to tune the coilovers to suite your preferences. Play around with preloads and dampening in order to find the dynamics that you like.
I didn't think we were supposed to mess with the out of the box preloads? I could just be used to the coilovers I have on my RSX though. Maybe its different with these.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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you don't touch the preload or they'll clunk (more).
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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thats a lot of negative camber i think.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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+1 get an alignment


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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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Great plan. Let me go back in time to where I already got an alignment. Please learn to read before posting.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:16 PM
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great plan. Let me go back in time to where i already got an alignment. Please learn to read before posting.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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great plan. Let me go back in time to where i already got an alignment. Please learn to read before posting.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by aftershock141
Its kind of funny. These cars can be lowered quite a lot without messing with the suspension geometry. My LCA's still aren't even close to being at a 90* level.
Take a pic.

Originally Posted by aftershock141
I'm at -3* camber all around with .04 toe in the front. I'm waiting until I get some wheels, and then I'm going to take it in for a realign at -5* camber and get it corner balanced.
Whoa. Do you realize that more camber isn't always the answer? What are your spring rates?

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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-5 deg camber? Wow, that's a TON of negative camber. Hope you like replacing tires every thousand miles because the insides show cords. Even if you're running the car on the track only, I still think that's a ton of camber. I'd be interested to know what a pyrometer says after a few track laps with that much camber--I bet the outsides are still cold.

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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^that and your straight line grip SUCKS. is your car really rolling that much even with coilovers? even assuming a terrible camber curve, 5 degrees is too much.

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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^that and your straight line grip SUCKS. is your car really rolling that much even with coilovers? even assuming a terrible camber curve, 5 degrees is too much.

- andrew
-5 degrees is also probably not possible unless you start cutting strut towers or bending control arms. That said, adding more camber isn't going to fix the problem.

I'm going to guess that it's crappy dampers combined with soft spring rates. The Stance shocks are very linear... unless you're running them very stiff, there's not going to be enough low-speed rebound for the car to feel "responsive," depending on what your definition of steering response is. Springs play into that as well for obvious reasons.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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He's likely going for this look:
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by weneversleep
-5 deg camber? Wow, that's a TON of negative camber. Hope you like replacing tires every thousand miles because the insides show cords. Even if you're running the car on the track only, I still think that's a ton of camber. I'd be interested to know what a pyrometer says after a few track laps with that much camber--I bet the outsides are still cold.

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He doesn't have -5* camber yet, he has -3* right now, which is still too much but not ridiculously out there. I have about 2.5*/1.5* F/R with the same coilovers, except my car is not dumped like his and my steering response is quite sharp compared to stock.

To the OP, I would suggest either raising it about an inch to see if the steering response is better. If not you can always lower it again, but the only way to really solve the issue is if you play around with the settings a bit.

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-5 degrees is also probably not possible unless you start cutting strut towers or bending control arms. That said, adding more camber isn't going to fix the problem.

I'm going to guess that it's crappy dampers combined with soft spring rates. The Stance shocks are very linear... unless you're running them very stiff, there's not going to be enough low-speed rebound for the car to feel "responsive," depending on what your definition of steering response is. Springs play into that as well for obvious reasons.
The springs are pretty stiff, 10k/9k F/R. Since you mentioned it, maybe OP should also check the damping adjustments. At your height you should be about 10/15 clicks
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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I'm at -3* camber all around with .04 toe in the front. I'm waiting until I get some wheels, and then I'm going to take it in for a realign at -5* camber and get it corner balanced.

wat?

-5 degrees?

rofl.. are you doing to be doing any of this?

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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 03:04 PM
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Adjusting pre-loads is always an option.
I would change the settings on your alignment. -2 up front, -1 rear. 0-.5 toe out in the front and 0 rear toe. You dont want toe in for the front.
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