brake dust
What I meant was that if you for say put a hot track pad with a high friction coefficient in the front only and put a street pad in the rear or leave it stock which has a much lower friction coefficient the balance of braking power will shift more to the front. The Bias of your brakes will be off and the Yaw control system can't adapt to this so it could be thrown off.
Also by having even two different types of pads in the car can mess with the brake bias because some pads have better cold bite then others and if you rear pads bite faster then your front pads you could though the cars balance off and the yaw control will try to correct it which could make your car difficult to control. Most people that track regularly will experiment with different pads to come up with a system that works best for them.
For a street car sticking with the same pads front and rear is best, using a higher performance pad then stock is safe and will not mess up the yaw control because most street pads are not hot enough to throw the yaw control out of its operational range. Every system has adaptability because they know that people will put non-OE pads in there car for increase performance. You can though mild performance pads in the front but never do it only in the rear. Magic Pads, Hawk HPS, Project Mu NS are mild enough to run with stock rear pads but more performance oriented pads like Axxis Ultimates, Hawk HPS, Ferodo DS2500 are going to through your bias off and while it may not effect you driving around town, taking a turn at double the suggested speed on a mountain pass where the yaw control will start to take over is not the place you want find out.
Also by having even two different types of pads in the car can mess with the brake bias because some pads have better cold bite then others and if you rear pads bite faster then your front pads you could though the cars balance off and the yaw control will try to correct it which could make your car difficult to control. Most people that track regularly will experiment with different pads to come up with a system that works best for them.
For a street car sticking with the same pads front and rear is best, using a higher performance pad then stock is safe and will not mess up the yaw control because most street pads are not hot enough to throw the yaw control out of its operational range. Every system has adaptability because they know that people will put non-OE pads in there car for increase performance. You can though mild performance pads in the front but never do it only in the rear. Magic Pads, Hawk HPS, Project Mu NS are mild enough to run with stock rear pads but more performance oriented pads like Axxis Ultimates, Hawk HPS, Ferodo DS2500 are going to through your bias off and while it may not effect you driving around town, taking a turn at double the suggested speed on a mountain pass where the yaw control will start to take over is not the place you want find out.
here is another opinion from another post : "If you replace the rear pads, it will affect the S-AWC engagement of the rear brakes to stabilize the car. With an more aggressive pad it might apply more braking power than usual to stabilize and cause the car to lock up the rear wheels...
but i'd like to understand what you mean by ... you can really mess up the yaw by changing the brake bias by putting a hot pad in the front and not in the rear.... do you mean that if I change only front pads I'm going to affect the yaw (what you mean by bias ?)
sorry for stupid question !!
thanks for answer

but i'd like to understand what you mean by ... you can really mess up the yaw by changing the brake bias by putting a hot pad in the front and not in the rear.... do you mean that if I change only front pads I'm going to affect the yaw (what you mean by bias ?)
sorry for stupid question !!
thanks for answer
Last edited by Girodisc Martin; Apr 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM.
We'll have an EVO X Specific Magic Pads in the near future. No date set but we are working on it. We also have a new and improved Pad Adapter that no longer has squeaking problems for those on the street and is much more resilient to heat for those using them at the track.
I have one of these http://www.calcarduster.com/microFiberWheel.asp
I use it every couple of days and it does a great job of removing the brake dust between full cleanings.
I use it every couple of days and it does a great job of removing the brake dust between full cleanings.
i usually just spend the 30-40 minutes when i wash the car to give the wheels a good clean. When I have the rims off of the car to rotate the tires I clean the inside as well to keep them from getting too gunked up. The dusting sucks but it comes with the territory of a performance car and stock pads.
EDIT: link removed see post below
If your looking for inventory for "Satisfied" pads, just follow the link and input your zip.
Kragen Satisfied Ceramic Pads
If your looking for inventory for "Satisfied" pads, just follow the link and input your zip.
Kragen Satisfied Ceramic Pads
Last edited by slo4g63; Jun 3, 2009 at 06:29 PM.
Just picked up my brake pads from Checkers last night, even got 10% off for some reason. Won't install them until Friday or through the weekend.
***EIDT***
Will be installing pads tomorrow after work.
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Will be installing pads tomorrow after work.
Last edited by slo4g63; Jun 2, 2009 at 11:39 AM.
Check out Eagle One - Keep Clean. After you wash your wheels put a layer of it on your rims and it will cut down on the dust that sticks by like 50-70% (anecdotal evidence from my experience with it).
Do not purchase the Satisfied brake pads from Checkers or Kragen. It shows part# PR866C but this is not the correct part. Not even close. The EVO has big rectangular pads, not rounded, I never even thought about that. I returned the pads that I had purchased.
They aren't as grippy as the track pads of course but they took repeated stops very well and didn't overheat when bedding them in. They are an excellent street pad so far that beat out the stock pads for friction yet produce almost no dust in comparison. I'll do a full review on them once I get some twisting road braking under my belt with them but so far they are very promising! Low dust, squeal free, better than stock braking power = nice street pad.



