Need an input on Brake Pads
For daily driving, I went with the ET500 series produced by Racing Brakes. Modern Automotive Performance (MAP) sells them. Significantly less dust than the stock pads, quiet so far with 1,000 miles on them, reasonable price, and much better initial bite and feel than the stock pads.
I agree with the other posts about the Axxis Ultimates. Good initial bite for a street pad but way too much black dust.
I agree with the other posts about the Axxis Ultimates. Good initial bite for a street pad but way too much black dust.
Their website has a lot of really good information on it: www.racingbrake.com
For daily driving, I went with the ET500 series produced by Racing Brakes. Modern Automotive Performance (MAP) sells them. Significantly less dust than the stock pads, quiet so far with 1,000 miles on them, reasonable price, and much better initial bite and feel than the stock pads.
We would be happy to help out anyone looking for Racing Brake or any other brake pad for that matter!
Porterfield R4-S (http://porterfield-brakes.com/produc...productID=2359) pads are supposed to be good for the street and the track. Some guys used to run them on their Integra Type-R's at the track and they liked them. I'm told they are quiet on the street, and don't dust too much. you can search Honda-Tech for references to Porterfield under the Type-R forum for more input. A lot of those guys track pretty often, as well as daily drive their cars.
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hawk makes lots of varieties... which one did you have trouble with?
My HT10's have been fantastical for the track. The DTC30's had a small fitment issue (casting flaw) but once I hit them with the grinder they have been neck snapping on the street and autox.
My HT10's have been fantastical for the track. The DTC30's had a small fitment issue (casting flaw) but once I hit them with the grinder they have been neck snapping on the street and autox.
Also, thanks for the imput, I'm leaning towards these brakes for now as many people have been giving good reviews on it.
Girodisc Magic Pads are great for daily driving where stopping "too fast" can actually get you rear ended, LOL. I was still able to enter full antilock from 35 to 0 before hitting a kid running across the road without seeing me so they certainly aren't bad at stopping the car. That said you do trade some max braking power for the low dusting and quiet operation during normal driving. When you get on them they are still a decent bite and don't overheat with brake ducts in place and spirited backroad driving.
For the track I use the Raybestos ST43 and they seem to only wear 1mm per 60-80 min of track time. They bite incredible to the point of allowing full antilock even at 120 mph if you want them to. For daily driving they are too nosiy and dusty to consider but are a really good track pad.
For the track I use the Raybestos ST43 and they seem to only wear 1mm per 60-80 min of track time. They bite incredible to the point of allowing full antilock even at 120 mph if you want them to. For daily driving they are too nosiy and dusty to consider but are a really good track pad.
I was running the HPS, and I have tried the HP+, which I didn't like much either. I'll likely be trying the Porterfield R4-S I referenced in my previous post. I've read a lot of good things about them.
Really, before we can give you any truly useful advice, you should list some things you do want and things you don't want from your brakes. Saying they're going to be used for daily driving only is not really too specific. I think you'd be better off saying things like "I want a pad that's low dusting, good initial bite" etc.
Do you care about brake dust? I had a set of Axxis Ultimates on my last car, and I loved them. The only downside is how much brake dust they have, but they more than make up for it in their initial bite and stopping power IMO.
I don't like Hawk pads at all. They stop OK, I just wish they had better initial bite. It's a really weird feeling almost having to guess how hard you're braking. I tried them at an autox on a friends car, and they are definitely not the type of pad for me.
I definitely recommend Axxis Ultimates. I just put some on my new car, but unfortunately haven't been able to break them in yet. I'm sure they will be just as good as the old ones were.
Also, a budget might help. Just trying to help you out here, since we're just throwing brake pad names out there for you at the moment.
Do you care about brake dust? I had a set of Axxis Ultimates on my last car, and I loved them. The only downside is how much brake dust they have, but they more than make up for it in their initial bite and stopping power IMO.
I don't like Hawk pads at all. They stop OK, I just wish they had better initial bite. It's a really weird feeling almost having to guess how hard you're braking. I tried them at an autox on a friends car, and they are definitely not the type of pad for me.
I definitely recommend Axxis Ultimates. I just put some on my new car, but unfortunately haven't been able to break them in yet. I'm sure they will be just as good as the old ones were.
Also, a budget might help. Just trying to help you out here, since we're just throwing brake pad names out there for you at the moment.
Really, before we can give you any truly useful advice, you should list some things you do want and things you don't want from your brakes. Saying they're going to be used for daily driving only is not really too specific. I think you'd be better off saying things like "I want a pad that's low dusting, good initial bite" etc.
Do you care about brake dust? I had a set of Axxis Ultimates on my last car, and I loved them. The only downside is how much brake dust they have, but they more than make up for it in their initial bite and stopping power IMO.
I don't like Hawk pads at all. They stop OK, I just wish they had better initial bite. It's a really weird feeling almost having to guess how hard you're braking. I tried them at an autox on a friends car, and they are definitely not the type of pad for me.
I definitely recommend Axxis Ultimates. I just put some on my new car, but unfortunately haven't been able to break them in yet. I'm sure they will be just as good as the old ones were.
Also, a budget might help. Just trying to help you out here, since we're just throwing brake pad names out there for you at the moment.
Do you care about brake dust? I had a set of Axxis Ultimates on my last car, and I loved them. The only downside is how much brake dust they have, but they more than make up for it in their initial bite and stopping power IMO.
I don't like Hawk pads at all. They stop OK, I just wish they had better initial bite. It's a really weird feeling almost having to guess how hard you're braking. I tried them at an autox on a friends car, and they are definitely not the type of pad for me.
I definitely recommend Axxis Ultimates. I just put some on my new car, but unfortunately haven't been able to break them in yet. I'm sure they will be just as good as the old ones were.
Also, a budget might help. Just trying to help you out here, since we're just throwing brake pad names out there for you at the moment.
My price range doesn't really matter, that said, I don't want to spend $650 on pads from the dealer... (I don't think anyone would)
Basically, looking for a pad with not a lot of dust, good bite and stopping power (Similair or better than OEM)
I'd definitely stray away from the Axxis Ultimates and Hawk pads if you don't want lots of dust. I think that getting brake pads that dust less than the stocks and still retain good bite and stopping power is going to be hard to find.
If I were you, I'd just go ahead and give your wheels a good coat of wax and just buy the pads you want. I understand completely about the brake dust, but a little wax on the wheels will make it a lot easier to clean off, and in some instances, you can simply spray the dust off with water.
If I were you, I'd just go ahead and give your wheels a good coat of wax and just buy the pads you want. I understand completely about the brake dust, but a little wax on the wheels will make it a lot easier to clean off, and in some instances, you can simply spray the dust off with water.
I'm running Stoptech's up front and Axxis ULT in the rear; the Axxis are wonderful, but the stoptech's dust get very noisy in the cold weather. Also, the Stoptech's aren't that HPDE track capable compared to real pads, which the stock Brembos are close to.
My instructor told me not to waste time with HPS and HP+, to stick with DTC70 real track pads. But another instructor in a GTi is happy with his HPS's since he has a lot less power.
IMHO, if you track, you should get dedicated track pads (and tires), and if not, no worry. The pads are easy easy to exchange upon different uses. It takes longer to lift car and remove wheel than to swap out pads for different types of use.
My instructor told me not to waste time with HPS and HP+, to stick with DTC70 real track pads. But another instructor in a GTi is happy with his HPS's since he has a lot less power.
IMHO, if you track, you should get dedicated track pads (and tires), and if not, no worry. The pads are easy easy to exchange upon different uses. It takes longer to lift car and remove wheel than to swap out pads for different types of use.



