I fade HPS pads backing out of my garage.

Seriously though Hawk makes great track pads, the HPS are not one of them. With the EVO X being a heavy car with a lot of power, I really think a track pad is needed, not a street/track mix.

Look at Carbone Lorraine, Pagid, Hawk (the DTC60 and DTC70), and Ferodo. Life is much easier with separate track and street pads.

- Andrew

 

duh.

 

DS2500 = Stock pad (If im not wrong)
I just installed it today, and now i feel stupid because i wanted to try something else and i got the same one.
here is the picture:
these are from my 2010 Evo X

 

is this true??

i used hawk hps on my sti at the track no problem. not sure what to go with for the X though. i want a daily driver pad that will hold up at the track. i dont track too often, maybe twice per year

 

It depends on the track, piloting style and how hard you brake. With stock brakes, my wife was using HPS pads on her Eclipse GT at the track. She didnt have problems with the pads in a lower speed circuit (Jacarepagua-Rio de Janeiro), but while in a higher speed track (Interlagos-Sao Paulo), she "lost" brakes at 220Km/h (137mph). Bellow its the exact moment this happened.





After this, we have installed a StopTech BBK with track pads (Hawk DTC-70). Some months ago, she tracked with the "Street Performance" pads from StopTech (we havent had time to get DTC-70), and we have the same problem as I had with my Evo last weekend.

So, I would say: soon or later, street pads will bite you, if used on track.

Best regards,
Ziki

 

as i said, the "old" pad is from my brand new 2010 Evo x, and i saw some post before thay people saying the stock pad has "ferodo" wrote on it.

 

Does it cost less if you buy Ferodo DS2500 pads instead of Mitsubishi branded brake pads? Because if they are the same pad and it's cheaper to buy them under the Ferodo name... then obviously that's what I'd do!

 

i believe someone is selling it for 299 for front and rear...but im not sure how much is the stock pad from the dealer.

 

Since the Evo X is on the heavier side, a street only pad just will not cut it at the track. Granted there are some tracks that are momentum tracks where there aren't as many speed changes but finding out your brakes aren't good enough after they fail to stop you is a bad idea.

I love the Girodisc Magic Pad for street use since I don't race on the streets and enjoy the noise free and 95% dustless operation when not being hammered on. When it comes to track duty I like the Raybestos ST43 since they haul the car down on the edge of antilocks with sticky wide street tires like no other and actually have decent wear rates. Sure they are dusty and will make some noise when cold but are actually quiet when up to temp on the track assuming you lubed them up correctly. A good brake duct setup is essential when pushing these cars hard as well since brake fluid temps can start causing issues. I plan on using titanium shims and actually running two brake ducts, one to the calipers (which I have now) and another directly to the rotor vanes.

 

I have ordered Hawk DTC-70 and TiSpeed Titanium shims. Hope to fulfill my track needs. I had to decide between Raybestos ST43 and Hawk DTC-70. But since I could not find any RayBestos dealer who ships to Brazil, neither GiroDisc were able to answer my request on time, the Hawk DTC-70 was my option.

Best regards,
Ziki

 

what does shims do?can i reuse the oem one? or dont use it at all?

 

To the OP, I'm not sure when you were trying to contact us but we were moving our shop at the end of April and setting up the new one in May. We were pretty bad with getting back to people then as we were very busy, without phones and internet for a while etc. Please contact us at...

360-450-5537
martin@girodisc.com
or PM through the forum

We'll help you anyway we can.

FWIW, we've tried the HPS and find the Magic pads superior for street use. The Stoptech "High performance street" pads are nothing special for sure. I ran them for a couple months in my personal car. The DTC-70 are good pads but wear rotors quickly and seem to put more heat in the discs. That is why we sell Raybestos. These are the best track pad yet for these cars. The Ferodo DS2500 is THE choice for double duty pads. They drive around town fine and hold up at the track better than most. The factory Evo X pads are not DS2500. At least they were not in our car. The backing plate may say "Ferodo 4487" but that could be their internal part number for the backing plate. Or those were not the stock pads. Did you buy the car new? If not, they could be 2500's that somebody else put in there. That would explain why they worked well for you at the track...

Feel free to contact us again and hopefully we can help you in the future.

Thanks

Martin

 

I've used them for tracks and street. I gotta say not really sold on tracks. OP I actually tried these brake pads and I felt that they were better than the ones i've been using...

http://www.more-japan.com/product.ph...at=1355&page=1

They work really well on hard braking and in heat. Probably one of my favorite pads right now.

 

Hi,
I bought my car brand new at the dealership, so the pad should be the "stock pad", but maybe you are right on the backing plate. now i feel better because i feel stupid when i thought i bought the stock pad while i wanted to try something better...

 

I can attest to the fact that Hawk HPS pads do supremely suck. I have them on my 1991 miata track/autocross car, which only weighs about 2100lbs, and fortunately I have only done 2 autocrosses on these pads and no track days. Definitely not a track pad, and hardly an upgrade over an OEM pad. Thumbs down...