Hawk HPS for track - never again
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To the OP, I'm not sure when you were trying to contact us but we were moving our shop at the end of April and setting up the new one in May. We were pretty bad with getting back to people then as we were very busy, without phones and internet for a while etc. Please contact us at...
360-450-5537
martin@girodisc.com
or PM through the forum
We'll help you anyway we can.
FWIW, we've tried the HPS and find the Magic pads superior for street use. The Stoptech "High performance street" pads are nothing special for sure. I ran them for a couple months in my personal car. The DTC-70 are good pads but wear rotors quickly and seem to put more heat in the discs. That is why we sell Raybestos. These are the best track pad yet for these cars. The Ferodo DS2500 is THE choice for double duty pads. They drive around town fine and hold up at the track better than most. The factory Evo X pads are not DS2500. At least they were not in our car. The backing plate may say "Ferodo 4487" but that could be their internal part number for the backing plate. Or those were not the stock pads. Did you buy the car new? If not, they could be 2500's that somebody else put in there. That would explain why they worked well for you at the track...
Feel free to contact us again and hopefully we can help you in the future.
Thanks
Martin
360-450-5537
martin@girodisc.com
or PM through the forum
We'll help you anyway we can.
FWIW, we've tried the HPS and find the Magic pads superior for street use. The Stoptech "High performance street" pads are nothing special for sure. I ran them for a couple months in my personal car. The DTC-70 are good pads but wear rotors quickly and seem to put more heat in the discs. That is why we sell Raybestos. These are the best track pad yet for these cars. The Ferodo DS2500 is THE choice for double duty pads. They drive around town fine and hold up at the track better than most. The factory Evo X pads are not DS2500. At least they were not in our car. The backing plate may say "Ferodo 4487" but that could be their internal part number for the backing plate. Or those were not the stock pads. Did you buy the car new? If not, they could be 2500's that somebody else put in there. That would explain why they worked well for you at the track...
Feel free to contact us again and hopefully we can help you in the future.
Thanks
Martin
Stock pads have Brembo over them, atleast on 2008/2009's.
Just got back from the track using DS2500's and they are great every time at the track! I'd get another pair if I was still using summer performance tires.
Just got back from the track using DS2500's and they are great every time at the track! I'd get another pair if I was still using summer performance tires.
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1. Cost
2. Noise
3. Cost
4. Cold stopping power
5. Cost
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNXvqmqNr0
check this out man....i hope the DS2500 is not that noisey
check this out man....i hope the DS2500 is not that noisey
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From: Canada
So the OEM pads are made by Ferodo... but they aren't necessarily DS2500's?
I'll probably test the limits of the Girodisc Magic pads at the Buschur Shootout Max Effort event which is a mix of drag racing and Auto-X. I'll bring my race pads to swap in just in case they catch fire though. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx7tA4RYdGM
Here is a classic example of why a proper cooldown of your brake components is a really good idea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx7tA4RYdGM
Here is a classic example of why a proper cooldown of your brake components is a really good idea...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KNXvqmqNr0
check this out man....i hope the DS2500 is not that noisey
check this out man....i hope the DS2500 is not that noisey
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After this, we have installed a StopTech BBK with track pads (Hawk DTC-70). Some months ago, she tracked with the "Street Performance" pads from StopTech (we havent had time to get DTC-70), and we have the same problem as I had with my Evo last weekend.
So, I would say: soon or later, street pads will bite you, if used on track.
Best regards,
Ziki
After this, we have installed a StopTech BBK with track pads (Hawk DTC-70). Some months ago, she tracked with the "Street Performance" pads from StopTech (we havent had time to get DTC-70), and we have the same problem as I had with my Evo last weekend.
So, I would say: soon or later, street pads will bite you, if used on track.
Best regards,
Ziki
When I told my instructor why I was tentative and why the brakes were "pissing" so much (whining and screeching), he said to flat out avoid anything that wasn't a dedicated track pad like the DTC series. Based on another midwest Evo owner and racer, I've got DTC-60's coming for my next weekend at the track. I am not yet ready for the higher initial bite described for the DTC-70's on stock OEM rubber. Not til I see how the DTC-60s react and/or I get real tires.
Anyone else notice this? Shiny rotors reduce stopping ability ALOT. So its not the pads fault, its the rotor. A glazed rotor makes a terrible friction surface
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Shiny rotors come from not bedding the pad compound into the disc. Looky here:
http://www.essexparts.com/learning-center/Bed-in
http://www.essexparts.com/learning-center/Bed-in
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