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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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Do you know if there are any brake kits that clear the stock GSR wheels?

If not, whats the best rotor and / or pad set to get for aggressive street driving and maybe a track day once in a while.

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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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If you're only doing a track day once in a while, there's really no reason to upgrade to a big brake kit. Stock brembos are plenty. Just get upgraded pads (and maybe rotors, but not critical unless stock ones are worn). Maybe the Ferodo DS2500 pads?
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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yeah thats what I was thinking. The stock pistons seem cool. I am probably gonna go the route of SS lines, fluid, pads and maybe rotors but wanted to see whats out there.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Do you know if there are any brake kits that clear the stock GSR wheels?

If not, whats the best rotor and / or pad set to get for aggressive street driving and maybe a track day once in a while.

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Some companies like STOPTECH have wheel templates, so that you can print out and paste onto a a piece of cardboard and test fit the brakes on any wheels.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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EBC Yellow Stuff is the pad for you
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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The stock front rotors will warp pretty quick, even after just a few track days. Expect to replace them pretty soon. The rears... you'll probably never warp them. Look for a 2-piece front rotors with a forged center cap and good venting. You can drop about 20lbs of rotating mass on the fronts alone!

As for the calipers, yea the OEM brembo's are decent; hard to improve on enough to justify the cost. The biggest downside with them are the pads. They could cover more surface area and they don't let you run a very thick pad, so you'll replace them fairly often.

I got a good deal on the kit from The Brake Man (www.thebrakeman.com), otherwise I'd still be stock. I have them with factory wheels and they fit just fine. I'm running Tornado F4 calipers all around and procast rotors in the front. I have a set of street and track pads. The streets will probably outlast the rest of the car Unless I find a LOT of time and money to spend on track events, I don't see myself needing to replace the track set for years. In that respect, even if you pay retail, they could be a great investment over time.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:18 PM
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Some companies like STOPTECH have wheel templates, so that you can print out and paste onto a a piece of cardboard and test fit the brakes on any wheels.
yeah but that would require me not to be lazy figured someone should have already done this. I think im just going to get pads and rotors.
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 09:39 AM
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we have a Rotora special going on right now
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...id-racing.html

and we also have a few more options
http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/brakes-c-4238.html


-anthony
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Do you know if there are any brake kits that clear the stock GSR wheels?

If not, whats the best rotor and / or pad set to get for aggressive street driving and maybe a track day once in a while.

Thanks!
I hate to be an Mitsu ad, but the OEM pads meet those requirements probably the best overall. "Street performance" pads for less $ will be less performance at the occassional track day, might scare you or even hurt you. SS lines on OEM stuff won't be necessary unless you're going so fast you're killing/smoking/melting those OEM pads, and if you're doing that, SS lines would be needed with Track Pads.

For the 5 track days or so a year I want to target (min) going forward, I've decided just to pay $400 for a set of F + R Hawk DTC-60's and $100 for SS lines since I know my brake pads can handle more aggressive stops, therefore adding heat.

I saw a Ferado DS2500 recommendation; Ferado does make some OEM pads, but that's a custom material thing Mitsu contracted to have them produce. My OEM's did a nice job, lasting 24,000 miles that included about 500 track miles, 3 days worth, plus a lot of DD.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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When going to the road course with my EVO IX, smoked the calipers first time out. By end of day, brakes had a grind to it on the way home. This was on an EVO less than 6 months old. Got home, new something was very wrong, got it to the shop and pulled calipers off the front.

The brake pads literally crumbled out in over 30 pieces on both sides. The metal backing was in tact with some brake pad material, but all jagged. This was all 4 front pads and I am not a bad driver, but far from a pro.

I wouldn't recommend anyone driving on the stock pads at the track, and if you do, monitor them carefully, I am lucky I even made it home without an incident.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slo4g63
When going to the road course with my EVO IX, smoked the calipers first time out. By end of day, brakes had a grind to it on the way home. This was on an EVO less than 6 months old. Got home, new something was very wrong, got it to the shop and pulled calipers off the front.
The stock X pads are actually decent on the track if you're an amateur. I didn't have any trouble. They're made by Ferodo, so they're not too bad.

>20 minute sessions, a high speed track like VIR, or higher track driving skills and you should get a dedicated track set. Of course, it wouldn't hurt to get them even as an amateur on a slow course.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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The stock X pads are actually decent on the track if you're an amateur. I didn't have any trouble. They're made by Ferodo, so they're not too bad.

>20 minute sessions, a high speed track like VIR, or higher track driving skills and you should get a dedicated track set. Of course, it wouldn't hurt to get them even as an amateur on a slow course.
Yep.

I was fine also with my stock X pads for a weekend at the track, I had 16,000 miles on them at that point. The pad wear I measured by eye, before and after just by taking the wheel off. It really didn't wear it badly. However, the grooves at the edges I had in my rotors before being turned were all there when I replaced the OEM pads before my next track weekend. Not that I would recommend my current stoptech street performance pads to anyone, for DD or for track.... squeaky or scary; at 100mph, BOTH.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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I killed the stock pads and stock front rotors. Went to Girodisc front rotors and Ferodo pads and no problems at all
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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I killed the stock pads and stock front rotors. Went to Girodisc front rotors and Ferodo pads and no problems at all
What kind of particular abuse or use did you put on them? I am still happy with my stock front rotors, a free turn on a lathe took all the runout I developed, and I've got 38,000+ on them. Of course, my pads bit the bullet at 24,000. About to replace the second set, StopTechs, with some Grandsports GS6 that I bought a year or so ago.

(I don't want to go with any fancy rotors, not yet, not til I see if the blanks from a company called "Winhere" are worth a poo. For $200 for all four, shipped, I just couldn't turn down trying them. They look great, nice and milled, big heavy suckers just like stock. Girodisc's I'm afraid would wear too fast.)

Much of my decisions I'm deferring til I see how long the OEM stuff lasts, hence my curiosity of the use/abuse your fronts got. I don't use my brakes during daily driving!
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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I've had fun at the track with my stock brakes but I'm slow. I have SS lines, titanium shims, DS2500's and ATE Super Blue on standby for when I outgrow the stock setup. If I ever get to the point of needing dedicated track pads then I'll go there.
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