Motive speedbleeder
Motive speedbleeder
Im looking to buy a motive speed bleeder but i don't know which adapter to get for the single bleeder does anyone have one of these?
here are the choices.
http://store.motiveproducts.com/sing...eders-c16.aspx
here are the choices.
http://store.motiveproducts.com/sing...eders-c16.aspx
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Anyone tried Phoenix System?
http://www.brakebleeder.com/
http://www.brakebleeder.com/
Just got mine and will be doing my pads and bleeding tomorrow. I'll keep that in mind.
Also keep reading conficting comments regarding which to do first, bleed or replace pads? On my WRXs in the past, I've always done the pads first, then blead.
Also keep reading conficting comments regarding which to do first, bleed or replace pads? On my WRXs in the past, I've always done the pads first, then blead.
WHen you change, the new pads will be thicker than the old ones, 100% of the time. So that means that to fit them in the same place, you need to open them up. That's done, most commonly, by opening the reservoir and pushing the calipers open a bit (by hand, screwdriver, or special caliper spreading tool -- love mine).
You "can" open the bleeder valve and then spread and let the bleeder's push that out. That's a handful without letting tons of air into the system that then has to be bleed for certain. That's not my cuppo tea.
I'd recommend using the judgement of "how long has it been since my last flush?" drive the approach. If you flush between pad changes, so for HPDE's, you shouldn't worry and I usually install pads first and then flush.
But if you don't flush fluid regularly (firstly, begin doing so, performance and longevity of your calipers), you should flush before doing anything that changes the position of your caliper pistons. The deal there is that you flush, you change/fill fluid, you later overflow the reservoir when spreading, making room for the new pads by compressing the pistons. When you flush, the tools usually all get you to a "full" level, but with worn pads, that's too much fluid.
NOTE: you can't open the caliper pistons up AFTER you flush by using the external bleeder screw, you'll let air in.
Slightly off topic, but if you’re still considering which bleeder to buy, I’d suggest looking at “Speedbleeders”
http://www.speedbleeder.com/
One way check valve, that way all of the old fluid (including when you’re pushing pistons in for new pads) is going “out” not back into the system. Have used them on two cars now, work great, makes bleeding a one man operation that I can do at the track. Note; you just want to open them a quarter turn or so, not full rotation (otherwise you may get some air leakage around the threads).
http://www.speedbleeder.com/
One way check valve, that way all of the old fluid (including when you’re pushing pistons in for new pads) is going “out” not back into the system. Have used them on two cars now, work great, makes bleeding a one man operation that I can do at the track. Note; you just want to open them a quarter turn or so, not full rotation (otherwise you may get some air leakage around the threads).
Well, that's cause it's hard to answer. the PERFECT way would be to bleed, change, and bleed some more. The fluid that's at the end of the system is dirty and needs to travel out, never in.
WHen you change, the new pads will be thicker than the old ones, 100% of the time. So that means that to fit them in the same place, you need to open them up. That's done, most commonly, by opening the reservoir and pushing the calipers open a bit (by hand, screwdriver, or special caliper spreading tool -- love mine).
You "can" open the bleeder valve and then spread and let the bleeder's push that out. That's a handful without letting tons of air into the system that then has to be bleed for certain. That's not my cuppo tea.
I'd recommend using the judgement of "how long has it been since my last flush?" drive the approach. If you flush between pad changes, so for HPDE's, you shouldn't worry and I usually install pads first and then flush.
But if you don't flush fluid regularly (firstly, begin doing so, performance and longevity of your calipers), you should flush before doing anything that changes the position of your caliper pistons. The deal there is that you flush, you change/fill fluid, you later overflow the reservoir when spreading, making room for the new pads by compressing the pistons. When you flush, the tools usually all get you to a "full" level, but with worn pads, that's too much fluid.
NOTE: you can't open the caliper pistons up AFTER you flush by using the external bleeder screw, you'll let air in.
WHen you change, the new pads will be thicker than the old ones, 100% of the time. So that means that to fit them in the same place, you need to open them up. That's done, most commonly, by opening the reservoir and pushing the calipers open a bit (by hand, screwdriver, or special caliper spreading tool -- love mine).
You "can" open the bleeder valve and then spread and let the bleeder's push that out. That's a handful without letting tons of air into the system that then has to be bleed for certain. That's not my cuppo tea.
I'd recommend using the judgement of "how long has it been since my last flush?" drive the approach. If you flush between pad changes, so for HPDE's, you shouldn't worry and I usually install pads first and then flush.
But if you don't flush fluid regularly (firstly, begin doing so, performance and longevity of your calipers), you should flush before doing anything that changes the position of your caliper pistons. The deal there is that you flush, you change/fill fluid, you later overflow the reservoir when spreading, making room for the new pads by compressing the pistons. When you flush, the tools usually all get you to a "full" level, but with worn pads, that's too much fluid.
NOTE: you can't open the caliper pistons up AFTER you flush by using the external bleeder screw, you'll let air in.
I did open up the bleeders before taking the pads out, and even with the littlest movement, fluid would come out so it's very pressure sensitive. I awhere in. Most of the air came from the rear inners.
Anyways, the brakes are fantastic feeling, better than new!
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