Alright, so I have an Evo X with a whiteline RCA kit, F/R Hotchkis Sways(set on softer setting on the front, and the medium on the rear), and Swift Spec-R springs, running SSP rear endlinks, on 265/35/18 Hankook Ventus RS3s, what are supposed to be the stickiest street tire on the market(140 treadwear rating). I am not pleased with this cars handling at all to be honest. My 06' STI with just whiteline swaybars F/R and 225/40/17 Falken RT615s had much less body roll, and felt alot more nimble and sharper and would manuever much easier, and rotate better without a doubt, felt like a go-kart. Only thing Evo has on it is more overall grip due to the stickier tire and wider tire.

Should I upgrade to coilovers? Will this get rid of all this horrible roll? It doesn't roll like a stock Evo, but its way more than I want especially when running that size swaybars. Also thinking of ditching the RS3s and just running Toyo R888 R-compounds on the street.

Sent you a PM

^--- why a pm??? Would be nice to get some feedback for others?

from your set up i think will only worth to upgrade something over 2K at least. Like the entry Ohlins or 4100 AST. other then that i would stay as it is. Also remember you need some body roll. Completely stiff car would slide as the cookie on the plate.
Personally i would go for some AST 4100 or even better 5100 and above coils. That would make you smile for sure. Many people has no idea about the huge differences between entry coilovers and the mid level ones.

IMO, the RS3s do not have the sidewall construction that these cars need. Stick with Star Specs, RE11s, or AD08s.

RS3s are golden on lighter cars.

The addition of lowering springs without revalving the struts/shocks is suspect as well, especially on Evos. The car is heavy, and adding lowering springs with marginally higher rates is just making things worse.

I'm just saying I really liked how nimble my STI was, with the crazy sharp turn in. Overall the Evo handles better, I'm just starting to get used to it. I guess it doesn't roll quite as bad as I thought.

Will adjusting the swaybars to the stiffer settings help at all?

I love the RS3 overall grip, its almost overkill for the roads, but I guess its lacking the stiff sidewall as tires mentioned above. Maybe thats why my STI had such amazing turn in, skinnier tire, and much stiffer sidewall.

I'm not familiar with your swaybar, but on my Perrin RSB, I have three adjustments. The closer you get to the front of the car, the easier you can kick the *** end around. I usually keep it in the middle because it's very balanced. My favorite setting for the track as I feel like I have full control and don't have to fight it.

PMd him because he is close and I am thinking of getting rid of an extra set coilovers and thought he might want to look at them before I put them in the for sale section. He did not write back so I guess he is not interested. :LOL:

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Saw your post...

The answer is the swift or any other springs are never going to handle like coilovers.

My advice (depending on budget) is Robi spec KWs, ASTs for under 3K...Ohlins right now for around 3.5K or you can wait for the new single adjustable JRZs that will be coming out in 6 mos or so. If you are really willing to spend money (>5K) Double adjustable ASTs, JRZs or Motons.

Spring rates for most are between 8-9K front and 9-10K rear depending on valving for a part time DD/track car. If just track car, you may want to go a little higher.

For body roll, sway bars are the answer...unless the spring rates are so low that the extra grip can over power the springs....Could also be the tire wall is too soft. Does it feel like the it is rolling over?

Why don't you go to NY sped for suggestions OP?

Ohlins or ASTs are where it's at but in buffalo where the salt is VERY heavy on the road in the winter... I would be afraid to have a nice car in the first place.

Actually if you worry about salt, kws are basically indestructable to salt.

The car won't be used in the winter. And I don't bother wasting my time on NY speed, its a bunch of ricers mixed in with ignorant muscle car hicks.

With the odd pompous Evo owner thrown in, from what I hear.

Get yourself a nice set of KW Coilovers. If you are heading to the track get RobiSpec versions. Then you'll have the right tools to start dialing in your suspension.

By the way, I use RS3s racing as an intermediate rain tire, just with a bit more pressure to stiffen the sidewall.

hence the smiley after my statement

place sucks, minus like two or three people that do **** right there.