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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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MR Suspension Question

Hey everyone i just bout my 2011 MR about a month ago and its time to go lower. I know the stock Bilsteins on the MR are already really good. I will be on CE's by christmas, and wanted to know if it would be better to just get new coil overs, or just get some eibach pro's? Its only used for a daily, it will never see the track, but i do drive it like it should be on back roads from time to time. If i just get the Eibachs will the stock Bilsteins compliment them very well?

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Eibach Prokits...I've had mine on for over 25k miles with no complaints. Great DD street spring.

The FQ400 actually comes stock wtih the Bilsteins and Prokits.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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First, let me give you a compliment for being real to yourself about the usage of the car. Soem people alwasy say some autox or track use, but actually doesn't see any. For a daily driver, I would advise you to stay on a shock and spring combination. Coilovers generally require more maintenance that normal shock dont'. My general rule of thumb is that more moving parts have higher likelihood of failure. There's nothing that a shock and spring can't do that a coilover can, other than ride height adjustability. If oyu're thinking about lowering, GT Worx or Swift springs are good choices without ruining your suspension geometry too much, maintains great ride quality, and still have good handling habits.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Eibach Prokits...I've had mine on for over 25k miles with no complaints. Great DD street spring.

The FQ400 actually comes stock wtih the Bilsteins and Prokits.
Sorry for the lack of info but which is the FQ400?
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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First, let me give you a compliment for being real to yourself about the usage of the car. Soem people alwasy say some autox or track use, but actually doesn't see any. For a daily driver, I would advise you to stay on a shock and spring combination. Coilovers generally require more maintenance that normal shock dont'. My general rule of thumb is that more moving parts have higher likelihood of failure. There's nothing that a shock and spring can't do that a coilover can, other than ride height adjustability. If oyu're thinking about lowering, GT Worx or Swift springs are good choices without ruining your suspension geometry too much, maintains great ride quality, and still have good handling habits.
Thanks for the compliment better to be honest and get the right answer i always say. Ive looked at the Swift and it doesn't really look like it drops too much.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chu
First, let me give you a compliment for being real to yourself about the usage of the car. Soem people alwasy say some autox or track use, but actually doesn't see any. For a daily driver, I would advise you to stay on a shock and spring combination. Coilovers generally require more maintenance that normal shock dont'. My general rule of thumb is that more moving parts have higher likelihood of failure. There's nothing that a shock and spring can't do that a coilover can, other than ride height adjustability. If oyu're thinking about lowering, GT Worx or Swift springs are good choices without ruining your suspension geometry too much, maintains great ride quality, and still have good handling habits.
There's some good points here, specifically keeping it real about the cars uses.

If you plan on playing with wheel fitment, coilovers will be nice. Otherwise, shocks and springs are fine for your uses. Shoot me a PM when you decide which route to go or if you have any questions!
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:53 PM
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Sorry for the lack of info but which is the FQ400?
400hp model of the Evo in Europe.

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2009/05...-400-with.html
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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Eibachs are not bad. I know of 2 EvoX and 1 RA that have them, and they are pretty comfortable. If you're after the lowered look, its definitely a viable option. For me, it will be spring rate, and change in suspension geometry, so I would choose the GT Worx.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Damn thats nice! We got the shaft on that one!
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:28 PM
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Eibachs are not bad. I know of 2 EvoX and 1 RA that have them, and they are pretty comfortable. If you're after the lowered look, its definitely a viable option. For me, it will be spring rate, and change in suspension geometry, so I would choose the GT Worx.
Compared to the Eibach are the GT Worx more soft or firm, and how do they compare in lowering height?
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Compared to the Eibach are the GT Worx more soft or firm, and how do they compare in lowering height?
According to the conviently located Spring Rate Chart, about 3 or 4 posts up in the Sticky Section, the Eibachs are softer, but with about the same drop.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lowkey
According to the conviently located Spring Rate Chart, about 3 or 4 posts up in the Sticky Section, the Eibachs are softer, but with about the same drop.
There's your answer. Both appears to drop 1.2 in front, and 1 in the rear. The overall rate on the GT Worx are higher.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 03:58 AM
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I wouldn't install any lowering spring on a stock Bilstein.
A revalved Bilstein, yes. They're damped just too soft in stock form.

Last edited by NJ Drive; Nov 18, 2011 at 04:00 AM.
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