get the END LINKS!! the oem links are garbage especially when upgrading to larger sway bar.

 

Thanks for the referral!

 

I just went online and checked them out. I will probably get the Whiteline products from them. Any idea shipping time to 92603 (Orange County CA) for the standard free shipping.

 

PM them over here on the forum. They are a vendor here. So, they will hook you up with multiple part discount!

Depending the warehouse that is being shipped from it could take 2 to 5 business days. If the warehouse is in the east coast then it is more likely that your parts will spent 4-5 business days in transit since you live in west coast.

Good thing is they ship everything out the next day if not the same day.

 

aren't whiteline endlinks adjustable? they should be adjusted to have no preload... that longer/stiffer (lol) comment makes it sound like you have preload on your sway...

 

Yea, my juvenile sense of humor was doing everything in my power not to comment on the longer/stiffer part. Now it looks like I just did. I guess a "that's what she said" may be appropriate here?

 

Thanks for referring MAPerformance. I called today and talked to Nick and he gave me some good prices. Ordering the stuff tomorrow.

 

Correct, a front sway bar will increase the pressure on your outside front tire by reducing body roll. This will cause the car to push (understeer) more quickly. You can counter this by increasing the grip of the tire, your coilover set up, softer spring etc. The computer can help a little but not as much as you like. Understeer is the bane of these cars as they are already a little nose heavy and getting them to rotate is the key (for me anyway). I say skip the front sway.

 

A front swaybar by itself isn't the greatest idea, but paired with a rear bar and a good alignment it's a great piece to add to the system. I've never had someone tell me they regret getting a front bar for their EVO. Except when installing it, that does suck!

- Andrew

 

lol. You guys have dirty minds

What exactly do you mean by preload? Endlinks were installed and tightened when the car was on jack stands. That was not the proper way to install them?

Edit: I tried to adjust (length wise)them as close as possible to stock endlinks. However, even the shortest length on whiteline endlinks were still slightly longer than stock ones.

 

With the car on the ground (or ramps) they should just line up with the swaybar holes. Meaning the bar isn't being pulled by the endlinks before the car starts to corner.

- drew

 

But as I said whiteline endlinks are little longer than stock ones. So, they wouldnt have line up with the swaybar holes even with car on the ground.

How would my handling gets effected since I set them to the shortest setting possible and install them on the car while it was on jack stands?

I mean shouldnt it be ok since I set them to stock end link length?

 

The length of the endlinks does not make the bar stiffer, as long as both links are the same length. Where they connect to the bar makes the difference (inner or outer hole changes leverage). You can preload the bar by having different length endlinks at each end though. That is why they are adjustable.

On another note, I would NEVER use whiteline end links, especially if you drive the car in winter or corrosive environments. They won't even last a year before they are rusted clunky junk. You could build your own from Mcmaster Carr parts for half the price that would last twice as long.

 

Well I ordered it. I went back and forth on whether to get the roll center kit. Thought I could save a few bucks. Didn't know how big a difference it would make but then figured it wasn't that much more and they said it makes a pretty big difference.

Now I just need to find a place in Orange County, CA area that I can get to install the parts.

Thanks again everybody for the advice.

 

If you are new to the track most organizations will put you in a situation where you are just learning the track and not really passing each other, ie passing will be limited so that you can only pass a car once they've give you a point by and you are on a straight. In these situations there's almost never an instance where someone else causes you to ball up your car on track.

I would suggest going with BMWCCA or Hooked on Driving as they provide good instruction and safe driving environments for those new to the track. Since both these groups always have an instructor with you in the car for the new drivers (all the other cars in your run session will be the same), there's really well control'd and safe environments.

It can be pricey at around $400 a weekend, but IMHO track experience in this car is a must, and the first performance mod one should put into the car (or yourself.)