Factory alignment problem
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Factory alignment problem
Hey guys, recently I purchased a 2013 evo x MR and noticed on the way home from
the dealer the steering wheel is turned towards the left( very slightly towards the left) to keep the car straight, so if
I turn the steering to its straight position I will slightly turn right...I'm
probably going to get flamed for this but I thought it might get better as I break-in
the car. I'm actually getting an alignment for it through Mitsubishi under
warranty and hope all goes well. Just wondering if any of you guys experience this
straight from the factory.
the dealer the steering wheel is turned towards the left( very slightly towards the left) to keep the car straight, so if
I turn the steering to its straight position I will slightly turn right...I'm
probably going to get flamed for this but I thought it might get better as I break-in
the car. I'm actually getting an alignment for it through Mitsubishi under
warranty and hope all goes well. Just wondering if any of you guys experience this
straight from the factory.
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It could definitely happen, dealers don't do alignment anymore in the pre-delivery inspection, alignment is made at the factory itself so with transportation, alignment could very well not be perfect.
It is like that for us here in Canada so probably the same for the States.
It is like that for us here in Canada so probably the same for the States.
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Ok so here's the spec sheet after the alignment.
http://s27.postimg.org/kla6e7pur/photo_1.jpg
Now when I put the steering wheel straight
the car is going towards the left....So one of the service guy at Mitsubishi is telling me I should
leave the car at the dealer overnight and first thing tomorrow morning they will work on it.
What do you guys think the problem could be? My car only has 5k miles on it.
http://s27.postimg.org/kla6e7pur/photo_1.jpg
Now when I put the steering wheel straight
the car is going towards the left....So one of the service guy at Mitsubishi is telling me I should
leave the car at the dealer overnight and first thing tomorrow morning they will work on it.
What do you guys think the problem could be? My car only has 5k miles on it.
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WTF is that? It is quite a bit off. You probably want to have the bolt flipped on the front so that you can run more negative camber up front. And you really don't need to run any toe front and back. Also your front casters (which is not adjustable) are really "messed up!"
If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Get your alignment (camber, toe, caster if they can) fixed first. Then when you "road test" right after, you can double-check if its still pulling one way or another. Just be aware that with 0 toe, your car is more sensitive to steering input, (which is what most of us like anyways).
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If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Get your alignment (camber, toe, caster if they can) fixed first. Then when you "road test" right after, you can double-check if its still pulling one way or another. Just be aware that with 0 toe, your car is more sensitive to steering input, (which is what most of us like anyways).
Thanks!
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WTF is that? It is quite a bit off. You probably want to have the bolt flipped on the front so that you can run more negative camber up front. And you really don't need to run any toe front and back. Also your front casters (which is not adjustable) are really "messed up!"
If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Get your alignment (camber, toe, caster if they can) fixed first. Then when you "road test" right after, you can double-check if its still pulling one way or another. Just be aware that with 0 toe, your car is more sensitive to steering input, (which is what most of us like anyways).
Thanks!
verkion
If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Get your alignment (camber, toe, caster if they can) fixed first. Then when you "road test" right after, you can double-check if its still pulling one way or another. Just be aware that with 0 toe, your car is more sensitive to steering input, (which is what most of us like anyways).
Thanks!
verkion
Thanks for the heads up. Lets say they couldn't fix the problem what else do you think
is causing it? Or will a good alignment shop guarantee a fix? This Mitsubishi
dealership i go to don't even have their own alignment machine...they are taking it
somewhere else under warranty.
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Thanks I will look into that....so I got the car back from the dealer and what do you
know...nothings changed. I'm starting to think it might be the tires throwing it off.
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WTF is that? It is quite a bit off. You probably want to have the bolt flipped on the front so that you can run more negative camber up front. And you really don't need to run any toe front and back. Also your front casters (which is not adjustable) are really "messed up!"
If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Thanks!
verkion
If they try doing it, and they can't get the alignment right, go somewhere else.
As for the "steering wheel straight, car going left" business, that's a centering issue that's EASILY corrected. That's just a quick adjustment to the control arms, shorten the right one a tiny bit, lengthen the left one a tiny bit.
Thanks!
verkion
On a side note, unless you have a good technician which test drives your vehicle on a variety of road surfaces, including freeways, it is typical for most vehicles to pull ever so slightly right due to the way roads are constructed, but that is another topic in its own. (Google Road crown if you are interested)
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Now when I put the steering wheel straight
the car is going towards the left....So one of the service guy at Mitsubishi is telling me I should
leave the car at the dealer overnight and first thing tomorrow morning they will work on it.
What do you guys think the problem could be? My car only has 5k miles on it.
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Actually, the steering wheel strait, car going left business is not related to the control arms at all (unless of course they are bent). What would cause this issue would be the individual/total toe and steer ahead angles. These angles determine if when the steering wheel is strait, the wheels are also properly strait ahead. This is corrected by straitening and locking the steering wheel prior to performing the alignment, then setting the toe and steer ahead angles dead center (within a tolerance). These angles are adjusted with the TIE-RODS. Not sure what you are referring to as to "Shortening" a control arm, but with the Evo X, as well as many mc-phearson strut equipped vehicles, camber is only adjustable by adding camber bolts or adjusting where the strut is bolted to the wheel hub/knuckle. There are no adjustment points on the control arms on the stock front suspension.
On a side note, unless you have a good technician which test drives your vehicle on a variety of road surfaces, including freeways, it is typical for most vehicles to pull ever so slightly right due to the way roads are constructed, but that is another topic in its own. (Google Road crown if you are interested)
On a side note, unless you have a good technician which test drives your vehicle on a variety of road surfaces, including freeways, it is typical for most vehicles to pull ever so slightly right due to the way roads are constructed, but that is another topic in its own. (Google Road crown if you are interested)
Thanks for the correction!
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Ah crap, I meant tie rods. I was really tired when I wrote that. :-( Thanks for pointing it out! And yes, they are SUPPOSED to lock the steering wheel perfectly straight before doing all their toe/steer adjustments. But its rare they get it perfectly straight.
Thanks for the correction!
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Thanks for the correction!
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Thanks for the help guys. I will make an appointment today to a shop that specializes in alignment
for 30 years and I will let them know about all your inputs regarding this issue. Hope all goes well.
I will report back as soon as possible.
for 30 years and I will let them know about all your inputs regarding this issue. Hope all goes well.
I will report back as soon as possible.
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Yeah, I already tried taking it to the dealership....they didn't even have an
alignment machine at the shop so they took it to a third party under warranty, but
the outcome was still the same. I should have just picked a reputable shop from the
beginning. I rather pay $80 dollars for an alignment at a good shop rather than
driving 15 miles back and forth to the nearest Mitsubishi dealer whom is known for
having a ****ty service department. Just my 0.02