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Old Apr 9, 2014 | 08:53 PM
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Whiteline Sway Bar Installed

Easy install (rear) and well worth it. Also installed end link kit. Next I am tackling front bar which is going to involve a lift. Picked up and installed the Cobb blow off valve. Easy 10 minute install. Installed 18x 9.5 wheels +24 offset and 265/35/18 Nitto 555s. When the wife is asking me what mods are next you know it is true love. LOL
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 03:39 AM
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Many don't swap the front bar as reducing body roll in the front will only induce more pushing of the front tires. If you do use a front bar then consider a softer spring rate to compensate.
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Old Apr 10, 2014 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnr352
Many don't swap the front bar as reducing body roll in the front will only induce more pushing of the front tires. If you do use a front bar then consider a softer spring rate to compensate.
I saw you posted this on another thread. Talking with Cobb they highly recommended doing with them both (front/rear) knowing I was buying from Whiteline. Honestly after a nights sleep I might not do the front bar. They handling is definitely improved with the Whitleine rear bar. Put it thru the test last night and love it. And thank you very much for your input.
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Old Apr 13, 2014 | 06:50 AM
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Many don't swap the front bar as reducing body roll in the front will only induce more pushing of the front tires. If you do use a front bar then consider a softer spring rate to compensate.
Where did you get info that front bar induces understeer (not oversteer as I typed originally) on X?? That is the only suspension mod on my car and car is still as loose as ever! I left it on full stiff through the whole winter and had no problems, even though I had some concerns before the first snow.

Also, stock springs are awfully soft and I hope you are not talking about those to go softer, but rather after market ones.

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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 12:45 PM
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Where did you get info that front bar induces oversteer on X?? That is the only suspension mod on my car and car is still as loose as ever! I left it on full stiff through the whole winter and had no problems, even though I had some concerns before the first snow.

Also, stock springs are awfully soft and I hope you are not talking about those to go softer, but rather after market ones.

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Push = Understeer not oversteer, so he's right. Note that it's a side effect and not the purpose of the front bar. My front bar is set at the stiffest setting and I'm getting less Understeer than when it was on the softest setting. It's all about finding the right balance.
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrwickd123
Push = Understeer not oversteer, so he's right. Note that it's a side effect and not the purpose of the front bar. My front bar is set at the stiffest setting and I'm getting less Understeer than when it was on the softest setting. It's all about finding the right balance.
You are right there! I should have write understeer instead of oversteer - but the rest of the text is correct. So, we are saying the same thing, I guess.

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ps. I will correct my post...
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 01:06 PM
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You are right there! I should have write understeer instead of oversteer - but the rest of the text is correct. So, we are saying the same thing, I guess.

Fedja
ps. I will correct my post...
Noticed your edited text. Depending on the setting of the rear bar the stiffness of the front bar could induce Understeer. On the other hand if you didn't have a front bar and had a rear bar you'd be kicking your tail out. Understeer/oversteer is just a side effect
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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Of course! It all depends on what current setup is on the car. My comment was regarding the stock EVO X and strange believe that RSB should be change to make car to handle better, when in fact front one is that helps the otherwise stock car the most.

Once you add springs and other changes, you could easily get too big of the bar in the front and that would induce more push. But, that is what we were both saying from what I can see anyway!
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Old Apr 23, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by MrAWD
Of course! It all depends on what current setup is on the car. My comment was regarding the stock EVO X and strange believe that RSB should be change to make car to handle better, when in fact front one is that helps the otherwise stock car the most.

Once you add springs and other changes, you could easily get too big of the bar in the front and that would induce more push. But, that is what we were both saying from what I can see anyway!
Agreed. The top handling mods that definitely made a huge (positive) difference IMO were RSB, RCK and FSB.
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 05:24 AM
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Whiteline makes good SB's I've always liked them
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Old Apr 25, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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I've always wanted to buy this, you might have convinced me to...
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 05:28 AM
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Hi Nagua

Alot of handling-bias mods depend more on driver style/preference. I personally prefer a neutral handling car that has a slight bias towards oversteer, so I have a stiffer RSB set at a more aggressive setting with a FSB set at a medium/lower setting.

However, some prefer both FSB and RSB to be at the same setting, and some weirdos may even like FSB at the stiffer setting.

Can't go wrong with whiteline for suspension components, but I'd recommend anyone that buys whiteline swaybars to powdercoat them. The stock paint wears easily, and the bar then rusts easily.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Treyzian
Hi Nagua

Alot of handling-bias mods depend more on driver style/preference. I personally prefer a neutral handling car that has a slight bias towards oversteer, so I have a stiffer RSB set at a more aggressive setting with a FSB set at a medium/lower setting.

However, some prefer both FSB and RSB to be at the same setting, and some weirdos may even like FSB at the stiffer setting.

Can't go wrong with whiteline for suspension components, but I'd recommend anyone that buys whiteline swaybars to powdercoat them. The stock paint wears easily, and the bar then rusts easily.
So many do not recommend installing FSB so I went without it. Can always install when I feel it is necessary. Car feels great on the RSB set on medium setting. On a side note when I have 2-3 passengers in the X everything changes. The Swift springs are to soft. But car is more predictable when cornering.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nagua
So many do not recommend installing FSB so I went without it. Can always install when I feel it is necessary. Car feels great on the RSB set on medium setting. On a side note when I have 2-3 passengers in the X everything changes. The Swift springs are to soft. But car is more predictable when cornering.
That might be because you bought the regular swifts instead of the spec r's like we said. And I don't understand how softer springs are more predictable... You can predict that you're going to push and under steer?
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Treyzian
That might be because you bought the regular swifts instead of the spec r's like we said. And I don't understand how softer springs are more predictable... You can predict that you're going to push and under steer?
I do not buy products that people tell me to buy. I buy them to my liking. And since I am usually in the X with just me and wifey the ride and handling are awesome. It is when I get 1-2 people in the back seat. And yes with the softer springs more predictable. Stiffer springs break loose unexpectedly. I noticed this with the H&Rs. Plus the ride sucked. Now with how impressive the Swifts are I might go for a set of the Spec-Rs. I love working on suspensions. An addiction. LOL. But at the moment I have the AMS intercooler and Cobb pipe kit up/low to install. Along with E85 setup. Then going on vacation. So maybe sometime this summer I will check out the Spec-Rs.
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