coilovers overkill?

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Oct 7, 2015 | 12:32 PM
  #16  
Quote: I daily on Nittos, Falken, etc. They last foreeeeeever.
Sorry if I make you sad 😛
Nothing wrong with Nitto's. After working at a tire shop for 2 years, I can tell you Falken quality is terrible. And they actually don't last very long compared to "comparable" Yokohamas, Michelins, Bridgestones, etc...
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Oct 7, 2015 | 01:50 PM
  #17  
Quote: Nothing wrong with Nitto's. After working at a tire shop for 2 years, I can tell you Falken quality is terrible. And they actually don't last very long compared to "comparable" Yokohamas, Michelins, Bridgestones, etc...
I used to run the Azenis on my Type R before they changed to the 615. They did pretty well at the track. Nothing composted to today's tires, though.
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Oct 7, 2015 | 02:39 PM
  #18  
Quote: if i were to buy coilovers they would be less than 1500$, so are they even worth considering at that price point ?
No. Stay on the stock suspension until you can at least step up to a set of Ohlins R&T. Budget coilovers are not worth the headaches.
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Oct 7, 2015 | 03:19 PM
  #19  
Quote: No. Stay on the stock suspension until you can at least step up to a set of Ohlins R&T. Budget coilovers are not worth the headaches.
He can get some nice, used coilovers for that price. I'm also not 100% sure I'd call Fortune Auto "budget". Their stuff is pretty decent.
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Oct 7, 2015 | 03:44 PM
  #20  
Quote: He can get some nice, used coilovers for that price. I'm also not 100% sure I'd call Fortune Auto "budget". Their stuff is pretty decent.
Used coilovers are usually due/overdue for a rebuild, so factor that cost in to any used set.

Fortune Auto has a lot of positive reviews and appears to be a decent affordable option for track use. I don't think they are going to be anywhere near as streetable as a set of Ohlins R&T though.

You can get a set of Ohlins R&T for less than $2400 shipped from vendors on this forum. Plus, Ohlins hold their value pretty well in case you want to upgrade later on.
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Oct 7, 2015 | 04:13 PM
  #21  
Quote: Used coilovers are usually due/overdue for a rebuild, so factor that cost in to any used set.

Fortune Auto has a lot of positive reviews and appears to be a decent affordable option for track use. I don't think they are going to be anywhere near as streetable as a set of Ohlins R&T though.

You can get a set of Ohlins R&T for less than $2400 shipped from vendors on this forum. Plus, Ohlins hold their value pretty well in case you want to upgrade later on.
Define "streetable". Except for a few (minor) things, my stance coilovers work perfectly fine on the street. If anything, they're less suited for track use as they don't do to well with mid corner bumps when being driven hard. I've found the happy spot with damper settings that allow for a decent ride and handling on the street. And generally set them stiffer for autoX or track. Are they the greatest thing since sliced breads? no. Do they do a good job of improving on the OEM suspension at a more reasonable price point? Yes.


If someone can't afford a $2k+ set of coilovers, there are plenty of acceptable options in the $1200-$1500 range.
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Oct 7, 2015 | 05:01 PM
  #22  
Quote: Used coilovers are usually due/overdue for a rebuild, so factor that cost in to any used set.

Fortune Auto has a lot of positive reviews and appears to be a decent affordable option for track use. I don't think they are going to be anywhere near as streetable as a set of Ohlins R&T though.

You can get a set of Ohlins R&T for less than $2400 shipped from vendors on this forum. Plus, Ohlins hold their value pretty well in case you want to upgrade later on.
Sometimes. I just paid $1600 for ASTs with a fresh rebuild. I sold some KWs with less than 500 miles on the for the same.

Not many coilovers are as streetable as Ohlins.

OPs budget is far below $2400
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Oct 8, 2015 | 07:33 AM
  #23  
Be careful what you read on the forums. Most guys on here are bench modders and just spew out top brands because they read that is what others have done and just want to be like them.

Nothing wrong with lowering springs. There's a lot of information on the forum for springs and their rates.

Eibach, H&R, etc are all good. Search for pics on the springs you're considering before buying to get an idea of the lowered height.

I went with ARK GT-F springs. Not as well known but I am VERY impressed. I've ran Eibach and H&R before and these are on par. Ride is better than stock. Gap is even all around. Not as aggressive a drop as Eibach, but for a daily, I wouldn't want to go any lower.

Couple things to remember. Stiffer springs will wear out the shocks and struts faster. Not a huge amount, but maybe at 50k miles instead of 60k miles they may need to be replaced. At that time, consider coil-overs.

If you're not mechanically inclined, have a shop install them. Otherwise it's not hard.

Do your research and use the 'search' feature as there is already a lot of information on this and other forums.
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Oct 8, 2015 | 01:41 PM
  #24  
Quote: Define "streetable".
Streetable = comfortable/tolerable when driving on public roads. Yes, I know that it is entirely subjective. But ask your wife/girlfriend to be the judge.

Ohlins R&T perform well as a double duty (street & track) setup. Most "budget" coilovers are lucky if they do either well.

Things like noise, clunking, corrosion resistance, consistency of the springs rates, rebuild cost, rebuild intervals, should all be taken into consideration.

Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
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Oct 8, 2015 | 03:49 PM
  #25  
Quote: Streetable = comfortable/tolerable when driving on public roads. Yes, I know that it is entirely subjective. But ask your wife/girlfriend to be the judge.

Ohlins R&T perform well as a double duty (street & track) setup. Most "budget" coilovers are lucky if they do either well.

Things like noise, clunking, corrosion resistance, consistency of the springs rates, rebuild cost, rebuild intervals, should all be taken into consideration.

Sometimes you really do get what you pay for.
OP is never going to go to the track. My GF doesn't mind the ride in my Evo at all. My cousin that has a 2011 mustang gt with Ford racing lowering springs and bilstien shocks meant for lowering springs with increased rates is always *****ing how my $1200 adjustbale coilovers ride better than his $1000 non-adjustable shocks and springs.


I'm in no way arguing my stance's are as good as Ohlin's, or other top brands, but they do a good job.
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Oct 8, 2015 | 03:59 PM
  #26  
Quote: I'm in no way arguing my stance's are as good as Ohlin's, or other top brands, but they do a good job.
I guess if the driver is happy that is all that matters. I just think that sticking with the stock Evo suspension is better than a cheap set of coilovers. Nothing ruins a nice drive like coilover clunking making you wonder if your suspension is destroying itself.
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Oct 8, 2015 | 04:18 PM
  #27  
Quote: I guess if the driver is happy that is all that matters. I just think that sticking with the stock Evo suspension is better than a cheap set of coilovers. Nothing ruins a nice drive like coilover clunking making you wonder if your suspension is destroying itself.
4 of us in Vegas got a "group buy" from stance, and one guy had a front shock cartridge go bad. They replaced it under warranty. My set now has 30k miles on it with no issues, no noises other than the "squeak" noise that coil springs make.
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Oct 18, 2015 | 11:18 AM
  #28  
I have swift spec r on stock struts. Very simple set up. Good for daily drive. Although there's that fact that it could wear the shocks prematurely. But that would give you enough time to save for coils when it needs to be replaced.
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Nov 22, 2015 | 01:45 AM
  #29  
For that true like on rails feel, get a set of wider tires/wheels to compliment the new suspension.
Figure a good setup installed with wider wheels and tires should start at $4000-$5000 and up.
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Nov 23, 2015 | 12:07 PM
  #30  
Quote: For that true like on rails feel, get a set of wider tires/wheels to compliment the new suspension.
Figure a good setup installed with wider wheels and tires should start at $4000-$5000 and up.
or you could just put a better tire on your current wheels.
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