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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 08:35 AM
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when to replace rotors vs having them resurfaced

Hello, i wanted to get everyone's opinions on this topic. my MR has 45K on it and the rotors are starting to get a lip and look very glossy. I noticed the brakes don't feel as good as they once did. Also i did put hawk street pads back at like 30K.

Looking to see if i should replace them or having them resurfaced.

Let me know your thoughts!

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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:49 AM
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Consider converting over to a nice set of Centric High Carbon rotors. This should freshen up your system. Consider replacing your pads as well (Stop Tech Perf pads as a suggestion)

Rotor part no. = 125.46076CRY (double check this no. for your EvO)
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Old Apr 24, 2018 | 09:49 AM
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Check the Disc Thickness specs. Measure them with a micrometer, and it will tell you if its safe to resurface or not. Personally I never resurface them unless I do it. Don't trust a Joe Schmoe at the parts store, he's just gonna crank it down and cut it until its straight without measuring run out, or possibly ignoring specs.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 08:29 PM
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You could give them a good scrub with brake parts cleaner. Who knows, maybe they picked up oils and grease in all the miles they did.
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Old Apr 26, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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Do you guys change your rotors (including also having them resurfaced) every time a pad change is needed? Mitsubishi recommends that but seems.. excessive.
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Old Apr 27, 2018 | 11:43 AM
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Always!

Never do a brake job unless it’s going to be done correctly. You could have severely warped/lipped rotors that are below spec and can drastically effect braking efficiency. Don’t be cheap. Do it correctly. Brakes are a safety item and this should not even be a question. Rotors are cheap enough if you go OE. Or even aftermarket. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RESURFACE OR REPLACE WITH NEW PADS.

edit: not to mention the shuddering and vibrations you would be getting with taped rotors. YOURE steering wheel shakes when braking ? Oh that’s normal right ?
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Old Apr 27, 2018 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rallyart13
Never do a brake job unless it’s going to be done correctly. You could have severely warped/lipped rotors that are below spec and can drastically effect braking efficiency. Don’t be cheap. Do it correctly. Brakes are a safety item and this should not even be a question. Rotors are cheap enough if you go OE. Or even aftermarket. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS RESURFACE OR REPLACE WITH NEW PADS.

edit: not to mention the shuddering and vibrations you would be getting with taped rotors. YOURE steering wheel shakes when braking ? Oh that’s normal right ?
You change rotors on every pad change? This is Evo specific in your mind, or to every car you've owned? Assuming you've owned others.
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Old Apr 28, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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Vibrations under braking aren't necessarily due to warping. It can easily be due to uneven brake pad material deposits.

Besides, if you think they're warped, there are ways to measure that. Get a runout gauge and compare the output against the service limit listed in the service manual. Saying "always replace/resurface" isn't very helpful or scientific.
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Old Apr 28, 2018 | 11:37 PM
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Vibrations under braking aren't necessarily due to warping. It can easily be due to uneven brake pad material deposits.

Besides, if you think they're warped, there are ways to measure that. Get a runout gauge and compare the output against the service limit listed in the service manual. Saying "always replace/resurface" isn't very helpful or scientific.
Proper brake jobs are a must. If you don’t have access to a brake laithe then replace the rotors. If you do then resurface them if they’re in spec. It’s not science it’s common sense you always want a true mating surface for your brake pads. I’m not here to bust your chops but either or must be done every brake job.
But what do I know, I wasn’t a mechanic for 12 years. If you wanna do it the cheap way, and end up doing the job again in way less time down the road then pad slap it and call it a day. Don’t ask for advice then be upset when someone gives you the information needed for a proper repair.
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Old Apr 28, 2018 | 11:40 PM
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You change rotors on every pad change? This is Evo specific in your mind, or to every car you've owned? Assuming you've owned others.
if I don’t have access to a brake laithe then yes absolutely I replace them. Absolutely no reason not to spend the extra money to do it right if you can’t have them resurfaced
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:33 AM
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Proper brake jobs are a must. If you don’t have access to a brake laithe then replace the rotors. If you do then resurface them if they’re in spec. It’s not science it’s common sense you always want a true mating surface for your brake pads. I’m not here to bust your chops but either or must be done every brake job.
But what do I know, I wasn’t a mechanic for 12 years. If you wanna do it the cheap way, and end up doing the job again in way less time down the road then pad slap it and call it a day. Don’t ask for advice then be upset when someone gives you the information needed for a proper repair.
Did you reply to the right comment?

And speaking of being upset, looks to me like you're the one frothing at the mouth. We get it, you claim to be a mechanic, congrats, you're taking ownership of this. Good for you. Clutch it with all your might.
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:52 AM
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Did you reply to the right comment?

And speaking of being upset, looks to me like you're the one frothing at the mouth. We get it, you claim to be a mechanic, congrats, you're taking ownership of this. Good for you. Clutch it with all your might.
Upset ? No. Rather disappointed when items like this are not taken seriously by others. There’s DIY ers who claim to be mechanics, who think pad slaps are acceptable. I simply said that always replace or resurface the rotors (depending on what people have access to) because that’s what proper repairs are. I’d rather encourage someone to do a repair properly on here then to mislead anyone into doing something incorrectly, then they kick them self in the tush when it’s done incorrectly, or worse something else gets effected by it and causes a safety issue. Sorry if the comments came off snappy , safety is not stressed enough sometimes with repairs that need to be.
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 10:00 AM
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Upset ? No. Rather disappointed when items like this are not taken seriously by others. There’s DIY ers who claim to be mechanics, who think pad slaps are acceptable. I simply said that always replace or resurface the rotors (depending on what people have access to) because that’s what proper repairs are. I’d rather encourage someone to do a repair properly on here then to mislead anyone into doing something incorrectly, then they kick them self in the tush when it’s done incorrectly, or worse something else gets effected by it and causes a safety issue. Sorry if the comments came off snappy , safety is not stressed enough sometimes with repairs that need to be.
Not taken seriously? I am curious if all Evo owners replace their rotors or have them resurfaced with every pad change. I have owned many cars, many performance cars, with this being my first Mitsubishi. I have never had any other manufacturer say that rotors must be replaced with pads. Nor have I ever experienced any issues. And I assure you, other manufacturers aren't in the business of telling me not to replace my rotors to save me money. I am curious what makes the Evo so special that it requires rotors being swapped each time.
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 10:11 AM
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Just my $.02
Any time I swap pads, I have the rotors cleaned up. I don't have them turned, but I have them gone over, by the shop (whatever sanding/scuffing method they do after turning rotors), to have a clean surface. I'm told I can clean old pad material myself, but I'd rather make sure it's done right.
If I had a lip on the rotor, I'd have that taken off.
I don't replace rotors until they are out of spec. If I see the bevel start to disappear, I start measuring.
I have yet to see a modern brake rotor warp. Everything I've read says the only way they should is if they are crazy hot then get cooled too fast (driving through water, etc) and that just doesn't happen too often, if ever. On my track car, any time I feel a "warp" in a rotor, it's usually just transferred pad material. Repeating the bedding process usually takes care of it for me. On my street car, I've never had the "warped" feeling so haven't really had to deal with it.
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Sure you could check Audi. Bmw. Land Rover. They’re all recommended to replace the rotors without resurfacing. But if you’re talking about if you must do one or the other then the answer is yes. If you’ve worn out your brake pads and it’s time to replace them then it’s time to also resurface the rotors or replace them if they’re under spec.

i can’t tell you how many Infiniti Q50 , Q60 red sports I’ve done brake jobs on under warranty due to extreme amounts of run out and hot spots in the rotors . These are performance brakes with about 10k miles on them. So yes it happens more often then you’d think

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