kericr: aem dyno the AT vs. the MT and it was posted on their site.. go there

-joe

 

Just learn how to drive one. This RA was my first MT. I had my cute salesperson from the dealer teach me how to drive one. It was weird having a girl teach me how to drive, but I enjoyed it.

 

You're acting as if the auto doesn't take any time to downshift. I've raced an auto RA from 40mph-80mph. Beat him.

As for the R32 vs STI question, I'd wonder about the tires, the clutches, and about the way they achieve their power.

No ****, of course not all engines put down the same HP. But an auto puts down ~%75 of the advertised HP, and a manual puts down ~%85. You can also see a difference based on elevation, heat, humidity, gas, batch of etc.

Next thing you'll be telling me that you can take an RSX Type-S on the fwy too. Of course you can, cuz it only has 210hp and the other cars need exactly 227hp or more to beat you.

 

From the attachements in that thread:

auto hp
auto torque

 

evil ralliart if you are just the elite in racing you would know that most 5spd never use fifth in a 1/4 run. Thats how you blow out hp. And next time read all of the sentence before you start typeing you would realize that is a joke dude cause 1sec isn't nothing. So stop getting butt hurt over bull. Because you act like your special. Because of your fifteen years in motorsports. Everyone of us have different backgrounds so get off your stool and sit down. Because most of us are just **** talkin anyway.

 

Oh yeah and in my first year I'll sell my ralliart for 12900 and you'll get 7200 out of yours cause you've logged 28000 miles hehe

 

sell my ralliart for what and why? there not gonna be anymore sportbacks they did not sold like mitsubishi was expecting !? oh and there is a RSX type-s on our club and yes i can run with it...well at least your last post was a good one ...drive an auto RA and drive any other auto car and you will understand how the mivec and overdrive work like a team! what other auto cars with so little power you know smoke their tires when it shift right after take off? and thats on Pzero's at 28-29psi ....oh and the remark about my 15+years of motorsports experience.....at 16-17 i drove a stock body 1969(no interior)VW beattle in the low 12 and a toyota starlet(if you dont know what this is as one the PR guys) in the high 10's(13b mazda engine) .before that it was sand and mud draggin then i turn into the stereo world(SPL) an now im into the car shows wish i have been on and off...you gotta remember that hen the sport compact scene took off in the states back in PR it was already big for years...the racing since the 70's(mainly toyota,mazda and VW) and the shows since early 80's...

 

and about the power lost on ralliart auto vs. 5spd....well mitsu dont advertize it..they do with the 3g eclipse....147hp on the stick and 140 on the auto....now im gonna have to go and find this guy that beat one of my friends buddies GS-R with a 5 speed Ralliart...and do some" friendly" rolls arround this "private road" i know .... o about the227hp remark..i got a friend with a 02 wrx and one with a 04 srt-4...(227 and 230 for those engines...the wrx have to struggle at high speed to pass me...the srt-4..well i hate those so im not saying anything...lets just say the guy can drive....yes the ratio is different on both cars ..one been AWD...so that make a diference too...

 

Do you know what overdrive is? A few hints.
Not all autos have overdrive, not all manuals have overdrive. Both the auto RA and manual RA have overdrive.
Hope that doesn't make me sound like an *******, but man, a stock auto RA isn't going to beat something with 200+ horsepower.

 

Your backing into a hole man you can't beat a car like that. If so lets see a video oh yeah inculde the pay off before the race too. The only he couldn't catch you is if he didn't down shift and his turbo was timed out. Your not gonna teach anything I have just about every 1/4 time and mph in my head. So your not gonna school me. By the way 15.6 for m/t and 16.1 a/t winning is winning. Oh yeah and in an auto in 1/4 race you cut the o/d off and only use the first three race car man.

 

Should have gotten a manual man. My RA was my first manual car i ever drove. All I knew about driving a manual was reading a lot about how to drive a MT car and shift gears. I never actualy test drove my car before I bough it, my uncle did that for me and delivered it to my house . I did test drive an automatic RA though. Then once I got my RA home I got in it stalled a few times, but learned in the process. Now I would never buy an AT.

 

same here, parents got me the RA after i test drove the auto and loved it, they insisted that i drive a stick, and ill never get an auto ever agian either

 

jwhitey,
a car like what? wrx ? if you been reading i was talking about already moving...i know i cant touch it from take off....now i really wanna now where are those 210 horses on the type -s RSX...i can hang with it from take off and i can jump ahead of one while cruizin...o and 150 yes i know what overdrive is just in case you did nt nkow i am a car mechanic(and a helicopter mechanic) so i know a bit about anything that moves with an engine...(except diesels) overdrive feels different on auto vs. sticks also the engaging points are different..just like auto mivecs engage at higher speeds than 5 speeds ...

 

my first car was a 97 eclipse and then i got the RA , wwhen i bought the eclipse i had never driven standard in my life and i learned the hard way , in the traffic in montreal .... ahhahaha it was so fun ! and whenever i drive an automatic car , i hate it

 

Let me explain overdrive to you, it's just too painfully obvious you don't know

Overdrive, any gear where the output shaft is driven FASTER than the input shaft. The ratios would be something like 0.7:1 or 0.65:1 or 0.87:1
All 3 of those are overdrive gears. An example of a gear that is not overdrive would be
3.5:1 or 2.75:1.
The input shaft is turning faster than the output (for the lower gears).
In the auto RA, 4th gear is overdrive since its ratio is about 0.75:1 (or so). 3rd gear in the auto RA is 1:1 (gearset locked together).
In the manual RA, 4th and 5th are both overdrive. Overdrive feels no different than any other gear, just a lot slower since the engine RPM is very low.
When you are racing, you DON'T want overdrive. Imagine you're in a manual on the highway in 5th, you floor it without downshifting. Pretty slow huh? 5th is the deepest overdrive gear on any manual (unless it has 6 gears, in which case 6th would be the deepest). The "less" overdrive you have the better. Once the ratio is 1:1 or above (2:1 or 3:1 or anything else above 1:1) it's not called overdrive anymore.
One other thing, mivec in the autos acts the exact same as mivec in the manuals. Engage at around 3500 and remains engaged until fuel cut.
Another thing about overdrive, if you're ever in a car that says "O/D off" or "overdrive off" all that does is prevent the transmission from going into 4th gear. So the auto shifts 1, 2, 3 and stays in 3rd. Same thing as putting the auto RA shifter into 3rd, stays out of 4th.