18. Eliminating the boost taper should be everyone's number 1 priority
20. Street Racing stories will get you drawn and quartered, don't post them, because at least the mods know that street racing proves absolutly nothing except who can be the biggest dumbass.



Your right, the boost taper is a@@ and elimination definatly helps you pull strong to redline....a flash can also take care of this.
Did not know about 20 but I'm not a young kid looking for attention so I don't have to worry about that one.
I never called WARRTALON a drag king but I challenge anyone to show me someone with more comprehensive, straight forward posts about the subject. Forget about his times and try his theories and then have an opinion.

 

Maybe we could start over, can you analize this and tell me why I just don't understand your car. Last night at palmdale, CA. I ran

I1-1.691
I2-5.070
I3-7.921 (85.992MPH)
I4-10.313
E.T. 12.450 @109.263

My mods are Vishnu Stage 1++ (cams are 264/272)
run was on race gas map 100 on street tires with Exedy twin. Shifts were fast.
All 4 runs were traped at 109 and 1 at 110 and all 4 were 12.4xx, the other runs were with low 1.7x 60ft. Please help me, by the way my car puts out 360hp/340tq on a dynojet. And lastly don't blame palmdale, because I think you have said your car would run just as fast at tracks like this. Temp was around 75, a head wind almost square in your face my guess is 30 mph and the track is at 2700ft or something. SORRY IF THIS JACKED THE THREAD.

 

You launches (especially this one) are very good, and your shifting seems to be fine (more later). At first, I would have thought you were on 91oct, but since this was with race gas (100/91 mix or straight 100 I'm not sure), then that is not a factor. It just looks like you're not making the power. The first thing I know for sure is that you aren't making 360/340 to the wheels. The only way your dyno reads that high is if they put in correction factors for octane and/or elevation, because 360whp is good for 116mph traps. Your traps indicate no more than 300-310whp, and that's WITH race gas. I'd rectify that situation first...

Next, hey, elevation does matter and maybe that track does run slow. I don't discount track elevation or track quality completely, but I don't think it's as bad as most people claim (in general, not just Palmdale). It's easier to point blame elsewhere than to point it at yourself, so you often see exaggerated claims. Anyway, I'd go to a different track - one near sea level if possible - just to see if you get the same et/mph. If you gain .2s and 2mph on the same setup in the same weather conditions, then you know that Palmdale just runs slower (elevation and/or quality). I'm also sure a 30mph headwind doesn't help at all, but I see people claim that a lot and am a bit skeptical. In all my years of racing, I've never KNOWN that there was a 100% dead-on headwind (or tailwind), nor did I know the mph of that so-called wind. This doesn't mean it doesn't happen...just that people claim it more often than it happens.

One small thing about shifting. Your 60' beat me, but I'm beating you in the 1/8th-mile on almost all of my timeslips on 60's of 1.71-1.79, and my best beats you by over a tenth, so that means either your 1-2/2-3 shifts aren't that great, or you just simply aren't making the power. Seeing as how you're only hitting 86mph in the 1/8th and I'm hitting anywhere from 87.5-88.7, I would say it's a power issue. I hit 86mph on pump gas with my current set of mods and the dyno figures you see listd en route to 12.64 at 106-107. Again, this indicates you are making more power than I am when I'm on pump gas, but you're only seeing it in the back 1/8th when the cams kick in.

Lastly, don't be fooled by my pump gas 106-107 or my race gas (104/93) 109s, because they are a bit deflated. I was bouncing off the rev limiter in 4th when doing my 12.2-12.3 runs with a max of 110.7mph that obviously would have been higher if not for the factory rev limiter. On the pump gas runs, I was knocking in 4th and only seeing 12degrees of timing, which was hurting my top end mph, but not my 1-2-3 gear acceleration.

Conclusion

1) You drive well
2) Make sure your Dyno numbers are factual and not "corrected" (aka inflated)
3) Try one other track to verify your numbers - I have gone to 3 local tracks to make sure all the numbers match (they do)
4) Log your runs to see what's happening.

 

All I have to say is....this has been an interesting/entertaining thread to read this morning!

 

Don't forget...

21) ALWAYS, ALWAYS roll your rear windows down at the expense of SRT-4 owners...
22) When buying rims, VOLK CE28's are never out of the question...
23) The EVO is just a beefed up version of the Lancer...

Those are the ones I've learned to accept as an EVOm member!!

 

Don't make your knowledge, products, or vendor choice based solely on what you've read here.

 

You will hit the rev limiter at 110 in 4th??

 

#24) Exterior mods rarely get you anything, but a slight drop and CF Splitter/Lip are worth it

 

#25 Don't go to one vendor because everyone else does. Do a little research and maybe just maybe you will get a better deal.

 

Yes, in the 6spd, my mph tops out at 110.7 at the top of 4th on the stock rev limit of 7600rpm. I have yet to trap 111mph at the drag strip, because of this...

 

#(whatever) dyno's are for tuning not for bragging......that's what time slips are for

 

21) ALWAYS, ALWAYS roll your rear windows down at the expense of SRT-4 owners...

I love this one!!!

 

#(whaterver+1) The Evo is for cornering. Although it can be made a drag car, It's amazing handling is what the car is known for.

 

AMEN.

 

you can buy then install an intake without a tune, and can still get an increase in power.
tuning will benefit more, but its not a necessity like sqkhog makes it sound