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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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get the LICP and get the Buschur (ebay) o2, it comes coated and its not core exchange. The cam will probably give you 10-15whp. For the exhaust I would get the AMS TBE or the new Buschur v-band set up, their the cheapest and the best.. The hold one is kind of ghetto tho so get the new design.
I got a PM from a vendor and can get the Tanabe Blue TBE (catless) for $845 shipped. The Megan is &700 shipped. I have seen the v-band, it looks great. ot sure on the price though.

LCIP is a done deal. It's on the list.

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:08 PM
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I know it defies logic, but Buschur has physically tested many manifolds one after another. I'm not talking about him making more power on his dyno than someone else making on another dyno. I'm talking about back-to-back-to-back-to-back testing with tubular manifolds vs the stock ported/coated manifold. So far, there was only ONE manifold that didn't LOSE power vs the stocker, and that was the Full Race, but that's a very expensive manifold. It only gained 4whp PEAK vs the stocker, so it's not like it was far superior, but Dave WAS impressed since almost all of the other tubulars LOST power or at least lost low-end torque. Additionally, the stocker is cast iron and WILL NOT crack ever. You mentioned the 1yr warranty on the Megan, which is a good thing and I've seen people take advantage of that warranty on Megan products (they honor their warranty), but you don't need such a thing on a stocker anyway.

Yes, the hotside needs to be done at the same time. Luckily, the IX hotside is the same as the 05 hotside, so just make sure you get a single-flapper 10.5 hotside, and it will bolt up the same.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
I got a PM from a vendor and can get the Tanabe Blue TBE (catless) for $845 shipped. The Megan is &700 shipped. I have seen the v-band, it looks great. ot sure on the price though.

LCIP is a done deal. It's on the list.

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If you're going to spend 800+ on an exhaust, please don't get a Tanabe. Look around and see if anyone bothers with that when you have the Buschur w/Bullet muffler for $825 (includes shipping, too) that is proven to make gobs of power while being super-light and super-straight. The Megan should only be $550-600, not $700 (ripoff), but it's not confirmed to fit the IX well unlike the BR.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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I've seen the AMS and megan and I think the Ams is a superior product. Mainly it LOOKS a lot nicer and the fit and finish are the best I've seen. The sound is right up there with the great bullet muffler and power as well. I just don't like the old design of the Buschur systems because of the flat dp flange and the slip fit sh^t. Right now I'm between the AMS and the new Buschur system. They're both worth $1000 in my book. As for this guy, since he's all about being cheap, he should get the regular Buschur. Its still a great product besides the ghetto fitment. Thats my only complaint
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Reno, there is no indication that the single exhaust cam will give that power. It hasn't been proven on a dyno. Also, the AMS TBE and Buschur v-band are not the cheapest - they are the MOST expensive. He said he wanted the cheapest way to 375awhp. However, he's not willing to do the most effective mod to get there (alky), and would rather spend an extra $150 on a manifold that makes less power than the stock ported/coated one, so it's hard to tell what he really wants. I tried to help him save money with a package that includes discounts and free shipping, but he doesn't want to be held to a package (not sure what that means since the package is so simple and already includes 3 of the main mods he wants - it doesn't hold anything back) .

I'll ignore the subtle bashing, you hadn't seen my most recent post to you at this point.

I don't want to run alky. For sure. I understand that I may be cutting out cheap power, but I don't want to deal with it at all. Sorry.

I most definitely do not want to spend any more than I have to in regards to an exhaust manifold!! If I can find a core on classifieds, I will no doubt send it to David.

I'm not shooting down your package deal either. It just seems like it's not for me....that WT/BR stage 1 flash wouldn't do much for the additional mods I plan to do in the 'first round' in addition to the TBE and MBC..... I could easily speak with them and have them do a custom flash instead. At which point, the WT/BR stage 1 is perfect, in conjunction with my other planned mods.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
If you're going to spend 800+ on an exhaust, please don't get a Tanabe. Look around and see if anyone bothers with that when you have the Buschur w/Bullet muffler for $825 (includes shipping, too) that is proven to make gobs of power while being super-light and super-straight. The Megan should only be $550-600, not $700 (ripoff), but it's not confirmed to fit the IX well unlike the BR.
I was quoted $700 on the Megan, with the Cat-delete. I want 100% power from my TBE, no cats, ect. That being said, would the BR exhaust be more $ because of the cat-delete? I am sorry if I wasn't clear on my needs for the TBE. All power, no cats is my want for the exhaust.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RenoEvo
I've seen the AMS and megan and I think the Ams is a superior product. Mainly it LOOKS a lot nicer and the fit and finish are the best I've seen. The sound is right up there with the great bullet muffler and power as well. I just don't like the old design of the Buschur systems because of the flat dp flange and the slip fit sh^t. Right now I'm between the AMS and the new Buschur system. They're both worth $1000 in my book. As for this guy, since he's all about being cheap, he should get the regular Buschur. Its still a great product besides the ghetto fitment. Thats my only complaint
I'm not 100% on being cheap, I just didn't want someone to come in here and recommend a "full race" exhaust manifold that costs $900+ and gives me 5whp.

Waiting on Warr's answer to my above post about exhausts, but the BR is undeniably awesome in power and build.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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I know it defies logic, but Buschur has physically tested many manifolds one after another. I'm not talking about him making more power on his dyno than someone else making on another dyno. I'm talking about back-to-back-to-back-to-back testing with tubular manifolds vs the stock ported/coated manifold. So far, there was only ONE manifold that didn't LOSE power vs the stocker, and that was the Full Race, but that's a very expensive manifold. It only gained 4whp PEAK vs the stocker, so it's not like it was far superior, but Dave WAS impressed since almost all of the other tubulars LOST power or at least lost low-end torque. Additionally, the stocker is cast iron and WILL NOT crack ever. You mentioned the 1yr warranty on the Megan, which is a good thing and I've seen people take advantage of that warranty on Megan products (they honor their warranty), but you don't need such a thing on a stocker anyway.

Yes, the hotside needs to be done at the same time. Luckily, the IX hotside is the same as the 05 hotside, so just make sure you get a single-flapper 10.5 hotside, and it will bolt up the same.
At this point, if I'm getting the O2 housing, the Manifold, and the hotside of the snail coated, I might just send them to BR and have a week of downtime. I don't want to have to buy spares and then re-sell my spares, the downtime begins to be worth it with more needs to be coated.

See, I'm flexible! Or, sensible. If the wait is warranted, then that's obviously the smart and headache-free way to go.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Ok you should just get the Buschur TBE (comes with bullet muffler) for $825 shipped. Your choice of test pipe or HFC. IMO the v-band is worth the extra money because of the fitment and quality but thats just me.
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
I'm not shooting down your package deal either. It just seems like it's not for me....that WT/BR stage 1 flash wouldn't do much for the additional mods I plan to do in the 'first round' in addition to the TBE and MBC..... I could easily speak with them and have them do a custom flash instead. At which point, the WT/BR stage 1 is perfect, in conjunction with my other planned mods.
Fluid, this is no issue. In fact, half of the sold WT packages have resulted in the owners opting for a custom Dynoflash in person. We have it setup where you just have to pay an additional $200 on top of the package price directly to Al, then you get custom tuned (normally $450, which is way less than any other flasher to begin with). You can get the package, then hold off on the base flash until you can get to Al (or him to you) and get custom flashed for an additional $200 even with all your other mods included. It's very flexible. The only question is...are you near enough to CT or OH to get custom flashed, or do you live near one of Al's upcoming tuning trips (Houston, LA, FL, GA, UT, IL, DC, AZ).

On the test pipe exhaust thing, a test pipe costs less than a HFC, so it should be the cheapest option. Megan doesn't even make a HFC, so there is no issue there. You should never have to pay more than $600 for a MEgan TBE with resonated test pipe. There are several vendors who sell it for that price and even some who sell it for less (Zeus sells for $550 shipped). However, I haven't seen it confirmed that it fits the IX perfectly. I have a MEgan on my VIII and have rocked out with it, but I never included it in my original IX package (not with Buschur), because we couldn't confirm fitment. The Buschur has the option of a test pipe OR HFC for the $825 shipped price. You don't save by getting the test pipe, and it does cost more than Megan, but it's a nicer exhaust that is lighter, straighter, and doesn't have a 5" rice tip (can't wait for my BR TBE to show up). The new bullet muffler is amazing and is included with the WT package.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Fluid1
At this point, if I'm getting the O2 housing, the Manifold, and the hotside of the snail coated, I might just send them to BR and have a week of downtime. I don't want to have to buy spares and then re-sell my spares, the downtime begins to be worth it with more needs to be coated.

See, I'm flexible! Or, sensible. If the wait is warranted, then that's obviously the smart and headache-free way to go.
At this point we (Buschur and I) recommend not doing the stock o2 housing, because after even MORE testing he found that he had significant gains with the tubular o2 housing. He sells them pre-coated (already mega ported) with no core needed, so that's one less need for downtime. The turbine housing and manifold need to be stockers that are ported/coated, though.

Oh, one price point to mention. The porting/coating of each part at Buschur is $175 and the coated o2 is $200, so you end up paying $550 for all 3. Earlier, you were spending $520 on the Megan manifold/o2 (after coating) with no change to the turbine. Good stuff, eh?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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Good info here, I'm lucky enough to live near AMS so I will be going with most of their homegrown. I'm seriously considering buying buschur's TBE sinceI haven't heard much noise about AMS's.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Fluid, this is no issue. In fact, half of the sold WT packages have resulted in the owners opting for a custom Dynoflash in person. We have it setup where you just have to pay an additional $200 on top of the package price directly to Al, then you get custom tuned (normally $450, which is way less than any other flasher to begin with). You can get the package, then hold off on the base flash until you can get to Al (or him to you) and get custom flashed for an additional $200 even with all your other mods included. It's very flexible. The only question is...are you near enough to CT or OH to get custom flashed, or do you live near one of Al's upcoming tuning trips (Houston, LA, FL, GA, UT, IL, DC, AZ).

On the test pipe exhaust thing, a test pipe costs less than a HFC, so it should be the cheapest option. Megan doesn't even make a HFC, so there is no issue there. You should never have to pay more than $600 for a MEgan TBE with resonated test pipe. There are several vendors who sell it for that price and even some who sell it for less (Zeus sells for $550 shipped). However, I haven't seen it confirmed that it fits the IX perfectly. I have a MEgan on my VIII and have rocked out with it, but I never included it in my original IX package (not with Buschur), because we couldn't confirm fitment. The Buschur has the option of a test pipe OR HFC for the $825 shipped price. You don't save by getting the test pipe, and it does cost more than Megan, but it's a nicer exhaust that is lighter, straighter, and doesn't have a 5" rice tip (can't wait for my BR TBE to show up). The new bullet muffler is amazing and is included with the WT package.
I live in Charlotte, NC. Sadly not close enough to any of the said locations.
I previously thought I could send the ECU in with a mod list, because I'm not near his trips, and live where I do.

I'm so sold onthe BR exhaust, it's not even funny. $825 shipped is awesome, and honestly I've always hated Megan becasue of their crap they make for the B15 nissan chassis. The only reason I lightened up on them is because you, Warr, use one.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
At this point we (Buschur and I) recommend not doing the stock o2 housing, because after even MORE testing he found that he had significant gains with the tubular o2 housing. He sells them pre-coated (already mega ported) with no core needed, so that's one less need for downtime. The turbine housing and manifold need to be stockers that are ported/coated, though.

Oh, one price point to mention. The porting/coating of each part at Buschur is $175 and the coated o2 is $200, so you end up paying $550 for all 3. Earlier, you were spending $520 on the Megan manifold/o2 (after coating) with no change to the turbine. Good stuff, eh?

I was never considering using the OEM O2 housing, sorry if I wasn't clear.

Good stuff, no freaking doubt!!

I'm sold on:

BR TBE (but which one!?)
Forge MBC
BR O2 ported and coated
BR stock mani coating
BR 10.5 hotside coating
AMS LCIP

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 01:07 PM
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FYI

My name is Tony, by the way.

I got a PM from RnR, they said their catless TBE is $575 shipped..... waiting for you to shoot it down! (BR is obviously superior, and I'm a fan of light weight)
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