Just signed on the IX MR.

I want the cheapest way to 375awhp.

TBE, no cat (Megan, $700)
Exhaust manifold, jet coated (megan, $320 coated)
O2 housing, jet coated (megan, $200 jet coated)
272 exhaust cam (unless I'm convinced that a 280 is better all around)(hks, $275)
Forge MBC ($80)
Flash ($300)

What else. Thanks and I've searched like a ****, I am requesting specifics.

I say to do the package in my sig, then add an SMC alky kit and an AMS LICP. That's 375awhp right there all day long.

I don't believe your list will get there. The exhaust cam hasn't proven to make any extra power, and the Megan manifold doesn't make as much power as a stock ported/coated manifold from Buschur, and it will be more prone to cracking than the stock cast manifold. The coated Megan o2 is definitely good, though.

You won't be getting a flash for $300, because that's the Dynoflash mail-in price. You do get one included with the package in my sig, but you will need a full custom flash for the alky and extra mods. That's fine, though, because you just need to pay an additional $200 for a custom Dynoflash after purchasing the package below, which includes shipping. Let me know if you have any questions.

Buschur mbc is only 75

I was hoping you'd post. I should have originally mentioned that I do not ever want to run any kind of water/meth injection.

While I am a fan of your "Stage 1" Buschur kit, I'm not stuck to it. The only thing I can see I need from Buschur at this point is the exhaust manifold, but I'm not convinced it's better than an aftermarket manni. The Megan unit I speak of has a one year warranty. There is also the DC sports one that looks superior to the Megan. Thoughts on that piece?(DC)

I have heard you and others say that the exhaust cam only will not be too much of a gain. What about the 'IX' cams that vendors claim are on their way in about 60 days? You have any info on those I haven't read on here?

I don't mind the price of the eventual dynoflash, I know that wherever I choose to send it, they will need a list of my mods, whatever. I know you like the Dynoflash, but from all the pissing threads I don't know where to turn for a flash for my specific aplication. I don't want to be locked into 'staged kits'

TBE - Megan or Buschur?

O2 housing- Megan

Exhaust manifold-???? I don't want to do a core exchange too much. No downtime for a 10whp mod, thanks.

Exhaust cam- wait for a specific IX application? I have also heard that there is a company who 'modifies' the MIVEC intake cam......what gives?

AMS LCIP- gains?




Staatz, thanks for saving me $5.

If you don't believe the manifold claim, then you don't believe dyno proof shown on here by Buschur himself. Help yourself then. Good luck.

Fluid, I'm always here to help. haha

I personally would get the Hallman MBC or the Perrin.

I have the Perrin on my car now and it works great with an easy install.

Got it from John at Deviant Racing.

Just my .02

Don't get your panties in a bunch, Warr. Funny how sporadic you are with your advice.

The main (and only) reason I don't want the coated manifold is as I stated before, I don't want to ship my manifold anywhere, I don't want downtime for a 10whp mod. Is that really basis for you to be so rude? I think not.

Dyno proof? For 8-10 whp? Whoop-dee-flippin'-do. Is it so much for me to ask to be sold on an item I'll be paying my hard earned money for? Again, I think not.

Forge, Hallman, Perrin, what's the difference? I'm not being a smart-***, just a serious question. I have heard only positive things about the Forge unit, other than the fact that the black ones have clogging issues if you don't check them out first. I'm not that noob.
Basically, the cheapest one is FTW.

You said this:

"The only thing I can see I need from Buschur at this point is the exhaust manifold, but I'm not convinced it's better than an aftermarket manni."

Then I responded about dyno proof. For some reason, in you next response you chose to forget your refutation and only focused on the core exchange aspect. If you didn't really mean that you aren't convinced, then fine. If you really only care about the core exchange, then buy a used one on here for $60, send it to Buschur, he sends you a ported/coated one, and then you install. After that, you either have s spare mani or you come back to EvoM and sell like the one you bought. This is what I did, except I bought an entire 10.5 hotside, o2 housing, and manifold (all stock) for $250, sent it all to Buschur, received my ported/coated parts, installed them, then sold my stock parts for $300. The money I made offset the shipping charges. It won't make much sense to get a coated mani and o2 if your turbine housing isn't ported and coated.

I was not rude to you at all, but now you can see why that thread got blown out of proportion. I challenge you on a comment you made, then say good luck, and somehow I'm rude. Same old story. Try to help people and they call you rude even when you don't do a single thing remotely close to rude.

The Forge is better than the other two, because it has a ratcheting knob. The Hallman Pro is the next best, because it performs wonderfully, but has a standard knob where you have to try to memorize the position of the knob or mark it somehow - it doesn't have clicks like the Forge. Perrin? Well, no reason to get a Perrin. IT's just a vendor who tries to duplicate lots of parts, but they don't participate or do anything for Evos except make parts. I don't even know why people are always buying their stuff. Nothing special about their MBC.

get the LICP and get the Buschur (ebay) o2, it comes coated and its not core exchange. The cam will probably give you 10-15whp. For the exhaust I would get the AMS TBE or the new Buschur v-band set up, their the cheapest and the best.. The hold one is kind of ghetto tho so get the new design.

Reno, there is no indication that the single exhaust cam will give that power. It hasn't been proven on a dyno. Also, the AMS TBE and Buschur v-band are not the cheapest - they are the MOST expensive. He said he wanted the cheapest way to 375awhp. However, he's not willing to do the most effective mod to get there (alky), and would rather spend an extra $150 on a manifold that makes less power than the stock ported/coated one, so it's hard to tell what he really wants. I tried to help him save money with a package that includes discounts and free shipping, but he doesn't want to be held to a package (not sure what that means since the package is so simple and already includes 3 of the main mods he wants - it doesn't hold anything back) .

my bad they arent the cheapest but they're the best, wouldn't you agree?

No, I don't know of the AMS TBE being any better than a basic MEgan TBE. It's definitely not faster and I don't know of fitment, weight, or sound being better. The V-band from Buschur is amazing, because of the V-bands, and the fact it's a Buschur, which is proven to be one of the best, if not the best exhausts already. He can do the regular Buschur w/bullet muffler without v-bands and save a few hundred while definitely having the best exhaust. AMS is an awesome company, and the exhaust is great, but I don't see it being worth $1000.

Well, let me start by apologizing then, Warr. I meant you no offense, nor did I mean Buschur any disrespect, on the contrary, I respect both you and them as leaders. You as a leader in the forum, you are an excellent driver, and your knowledge is great. As for Buschur, they are an incredible conpany. David is a great guy. I respect them more than any other A/M compnay for the 4g63.

Back to the manifold. One could see my point of view- "how does a stock manifold, when only coated, perform as good or better than, say, the DC aftermarket manifold? I could even have the DC coated, is that correct? As for the dyno numbers, those are relative, as you of all people know. If you're telling me that the coated manifold is bar none, the best way to go for the IX with exhaust manifold modification is concerned, then I have no choice but to believe you, even though I don't want the downtime. Also, you're suggesting that I send the hotside of the IX turbo to get ported and coated as well? Excellent. I would obviously like no downtime, but if it has to be, then it has to be, and I'll start looking for classified ads as you suggested, and as is the route you took.

I greatly appreciate your advice and presence in my thread.