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Old May 14, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Thanks man... Now I have to play the waiting game. I fly out to LA in mid-July for my job and plan on driving back east in an Evo purchased form South Coast-- provided that they have any left...
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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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If you can afford a evo you should be comparing it to the STI. I dont think the evo rs is good for anything but being a stripped apart race car. The wrx might not be as fast but you get alot more for the money.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Thanks for the replies. I come from the Subaru world and owned a 2002 WRX for 2 years. Loved the car, loved the Evos that I drove later on more...

I'm essentially looking for a daily driver and I'm not into modding; but I do rub shoulders with the Porsche/Ferrari crowd (work related) and like the idea of having a car on hand that I don't have to apologize for. A WRX wagon would suffice (I drove an '06 TR a few months ago) but the experience of driving an Evo, as I recall, stuck in my head for weeks afterward. Rough ride, noise, etc., none of that phases me and if my passengers don't like it they can walk!

If anybody (especially a IX owner) has the chance to drive an '06 WRX and could chime in with " Whoa! I was impressed!" or "No effin way would I consider one!" or something in between, I'm all ears-- no IXs around here for me to drive!
I feel that i should chime in on some of the responses i read. I see you pretty much made up your mind on the evo. I have the IX MR and also drove a good friend of mine's 06 wrx. You mentioned throttle response: The subbie has a little more grunt off the get go, but the difference is negligable (SP?). The suspension is very soft compared to the evo, a little more body roll than what i would like out of a sport sedan, and then warranty comes into play with me as well as modding. I hear you dont plan to mod, neither do i. I may when my warranty is about to go out in years to come, but no plans of it now. The subbie has the 3 year / 36,000 vs the evo 10 year / 100,000.

As for the modding part and other owners will agree:

There is the rs, which is pretty stripped for options, the standard IX, the IX with the sunroof, sound system(which is a ***** for anything AM), and the leather interior, HID's, and then there is the MR. Personally, i chose the MR because i got a great deal out the door. 32k and some change for the MR. If you don't plan to mod and can pay the difference, this is your best choice. Bilstein dampers, HID's and some other goodies and a basic stereo which can be easily changed. It has the gauge package as well.

It kind of sounds as if you are in the same boat i was, and i decided to spend the extra money and get the MR, especially if you rub shoulders with porsche and ferrari.

Good luck, any other question, i am availble in PM.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MRCole
I feel that i should chime in on some of the responses i read. I see you pretty much made up your mind on the evo. I have the IX MR and also drove a good friend of mine's 06 wrx. You mentioned throttle response: The subbie has a little more grunt off the get go, but the difference is negligable (SP?). The suspension is very soft compared to the evo, a little more body roll than what i would like out of a sport sedan, and then warranty comes into play with me as well as modding. I hear you dont plan to mod, neither do i. I may when my warranty is about to go out in years to come, but no plans of it now. The subbie has the 3 year / 36,000 vs the evo 10 year / 100,000.

As for the modding part and other owners will agree:

There is the rs, which is pretty stripped for options, the standard IX, the IX with the sunroof, sound system(which is a ***** for anything AM), and the leather interior, HID's, and then there is the MR. Personally, i chose the MR because i got a great deal out the door. 32k and some change for the MR. If you don't plan to mod and can pay the difference, this is your best choice. Bilstein dampers, HID's and some other goodies and a basic stereo which can be easily changed. It has the gauge package as well.

It kind of sounds as if you are in the same boat i was, and i decided to spend the extra money and get the MR, especially if you rub shoulders with porsche and ferrari.

Good luck, any other question, i am availble in PM.
Why are you comparing one cars bumper to bumper with another cars drivetrain warranty?

Honestly, I'd take Subaru quality and a shorter warranty if I had the option.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Fuji-

I just traded in my 02 WRX for an 06 EVO MR and the differences are freakin amazing. Now I know that you know the WRX isnt as good as an EVO, but after just going through the "new car" process last week I can tell you that supposedly the new 06 WRX has actually been toned down from the 02's. Supposedly they have done this in order to make more of a difference between the WRX and the STi, kind of like when they toned down the camaro vs the vette.

I believe the fellow peeps on the board have the right of it, if you're interested in performance and have the money get the EVO or the STi.

Although I will be a life long Subaru fan, personally, I'm happy that I went w/ the EVO and will never look back over the decision.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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wrx vs. evo isn't a valid comparison.

02-05's are not bad. my biggest complaint about all of the ej207 cars have been the poor selection by subaru on the tranny ratios. a few small tweeks in the gear box would make a good car great.

even so, kick up some basic mods, and you have a killer daily driver. couple hundred hp/tq, and lots of fun. set and forget.

it's a much less focused car than an evo.

comparing an sti to an evo is a much more valid comparo.

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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Why are you comparing one cars bumper to bumper with another cars drivetrain warranty?

Honestly, I'd take Subaru quality and a shorter warranty if I had the option.
Why? Did you read all of the users posts in this thread? He needs the comparison between the cars. I gave him that. To some people warranties is a big factor in buying a new car that they especially will finance for 5+ years. You would spend ~30k on a car that came with a 3 year warranty and took out a 5-6 year loan on it knowing that the last years you still have to pay on it is not covered? Personally i wouldn't. But, on the other hand if you are buying the car with cash, then you may not care and apparently you are one of those people who don't believe in, "it may break even if it isn't abused."

The man wanted input and you seem to be the only one to question the warranty statement i made. Alot of people don't even know the subbie has the 3 year.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Look, I came from a Subie and will always love subbies (w00t for SWRT) but I think it says alot when a company comes straight out and says I've got your back for 5 years so long as you're not doing anything stupid.

And no it doesnt say your car's a POS, I think this was a good move by Mitsu to try and get more owners.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Lt. Boomstick
Look, I came from a Subie and will always love subbies (w00t for SWRT) but I think it says alot when a company comes straight out and says I've got your back for 5 years so long as you're not doing anything stupid.

And no it doesnt say your car's a POS, I think this was a good move by Mitsu to try and get more owners.
I love the subbie's, never had a problem with it, except for 1 who was cocky as all hell about his car. The unique sound they produce is exhilarating, but when i recently, or a few months ago when i went to get a new car, warranty and reviews led me to choose the evo over the sti.

I did not look into the wrx warranty or extended warranty, but mitsu's 10 year 100,000 mile warranty i'd have to say was a big factor in my final decision. Both cars are great, even if you op for the wrx. I just wasn't thrilled with the new front end on them. I by no means was looking down on the subbie's as they are both great cars.

I hope you make up your own mind as i did as far as what you want.
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Old May 16, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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I owned a WRX for 2 years and I'd have to say that my experience with subaru warranties, customer service and reliability was a big disappointment. I wouldn't let any misconceptions of a warranty steer your decisions.

They've made some nice improvements on the 06 WRX though. It finally gets brakes to actually... stop the car! (Imagine that!)
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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MRCole
Why? Did you read all of the users posts in this thread? He needs the comparison between the cars. I gave him that. To some people warranties is a big factor in buying a new car that they especially will finance for 5+ years. You would spend ~30k on a car that came with a 3 year warranty and took out a 5-6 year loan on it knowing that the last years you still have to pay on it is not covered? Personally i wouldn't. But, on the other hand if you are buying the car with cash, then you may not care and apparently you are one of those people who don't believe in, "it may break even if it isn't abused."

The man wanted input and you seem to be the only one to question the warranty statement i made. Alot of people don't even know the subbie has the 3 year.
What does any of that have to do with what I said. You compared Subaru's bumper to bumper warranty with Mitsubishi's drivetrain warranty which I found odd and misleading since it's 3year/36,000 vs. 5year/60,000 rather than 10year/100,000, Subaru's drivetrain warranty is 5year/60,000. Yes, still not as long of a warranty as Mitsubishi, but not as different as you made it out to be.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fujilicious
Thanks man... Now I have to play the waiting game. I fly out to LA in mid-July for my job and plan on driving back east in an Evo purchased form South Coast-- provided that they have any left...
If there is an Evo now at SCM that you want, you can buy the car before you get to SCM, and Mark will hold the car on the lot until you arrive. Mine sat on the lot for 1.5 months before I picked it up (excruciating wait).
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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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I'm the person you wanna talk to, as I have a IX (& VIII) and my G/F has a 06 WRX that I drive every now and then.

The 06 WRX is deffinently the best base WRX yet. With the 2.5L block, it put down torque comparible to the EVO (230-235TQ on a Mustang Dyno). Also, the new 06 has four piston calipers in front and two piston in back (other WRXs has two in front, one in back). The 06s also have 17in rims now, not 16s.

Anyways, now to how it drives. It has as much TQ as the EVO and it comes on earlier, but starts whizzing really bad up top (only dynos 'bout 200-205HP on the MD, compared to the EVOs 230-235HP). Also, the steering feel & handling are nowhere near the EVOs ability, but that is to be expected.

I believe an 06 WRX is a good buy if you don't want a bumpy, loud race car (the EVO). Also, Insurance is cheaper for the WRX and so is maintance. Most people only thing of whats faster, but I think the 06 WRX is a nice fit for some.

Here is some performance data.

Some kids have run 13.9, 13.8 & 13.7 with a stock 06 WRX

Also a stg 2 06 WRX puts down HP just about equal to the STi and about 20-25 more TQ. Also, some one with a Stg. 2 06 WRX has pulled a 13.1
Good info, however those dyno numbers sound more like dynojet numbers, I think MD read 180-190 for stock evo 8.

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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tbplayer45
Good info, however those dyno numbers sound more like dynojet numbers, I think MD read 180-190 for stock evo 8.
I think he's talking about the evo IX. And then of course it all depends on how the MD is callibrated.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Good info, however those dyno numbers sound more like dynojet numbers, I think MD read 180-190 for stock evo 8.
Yeah, what dayf said. Those numbers are for a IX. The EVO example numbers are from FF dyno MD and the Subaru example numbers are from COBBs MD.

On a side note, I dynoed my VIII with just a drop-in filter & IX DV at FF on their MD (setup and calibrated by MD techs the day or two before) and dynoed 232HP/233TQ. VIIIs there usually do around 220HP & TQ

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