If you tell me to search in gonna go cry to my mommy because I just want an answer without someone calling me a moron. Now that I am done with self pitty

What is it about these little 2.0 that have them running 500 to the wheels without caughing. I mean I come from bult small block v8 land and without forged internals.... 500 is the max for even the stoutest of motors for about a week.

I asked my dealer if the bottom ends were built... and they replied by saying yea of course you dont have to assmemble them... tey are all put together at the factory... obviously he is on the pipe

So I go to forum godd and ask.... do these thingshave forged internals or what?

 

Proper tuning and low compression keep them alive. Besides, v8s suck.

 

v8's are teh gay
lolz

 

i might be mistaking, but the smaller engine overall allows for high horsepower because the internals are smaller, making them stronger. kinda like a longer stick is easier o break than a smaller stick. thats the easiest way to explain it. it makes sense i hope. ill prolly end up sounding like an idiot.

 

Welcome to the land of import performance.... I believe a majority of Japanese imports use forged crankshafts. I know the Evo has a forged crank, but to be honest, I am not sure about the rest of the bottom end. I know the Evo VI had forged everything.

 

thank you all for not ripping on me and for the info... I agree v8 suck... unless they are in a beautiful saleen that makes women want to sit on your stick... sorry had to put that one in

 

No, the problem with most domestic "muscle" cars, and part of the reason they are cheap, is that they use cheap parts in building them (there are of course, exceptions, most notably the cars that are not cheap).

To refine your example, think of it like this: Our Evos use 4 sticks, domestic performance cars use 8. One would think that 8 sticks are better than 4, but our 4 sticks just happen to be thicker.

 

I disagree... v8's don't suck, they are just expensive, as you have twice as many parts to buy.

 

trust me I have been a v8 guy my entire life... they are awesome... but extremely hard to work on unless they are an older model and have a carb... these modular fords have to removed to do anything and there is no room in th eengine bay to work on them... the tuning software sucks and standalone systems cost 5 times what they do for imports... they dont suck... they just take alot more money time and frustration to make work

 

No, they really do suck. J/K

 

Well i'm an american through and through but the Japanese make better parts and cars. Sorry America but they think performance and we think profits.

 

This is not true lol, why do hondas blow up they have small internals. But I seen a test a long time ago stating that the 4g63 motor was 2nd strongest japanese motor next to the toyota supra.

 

Man the american cars like the cobra they are pretty dam stout. I know the 03-04 supercharged cobras come with pauter rods or manley I forgot but I know some good rods.

 

True you have twice as many parts to buy, but overall, they're about the same price if you think about it. To make equal horsepower using half the displacement, less than half actually, we add on parts that make up for the lack(turbo). So if its $4000 in a turbo kit or $4000 into the other head, header, and other 4 pistons and rods, it all comes out the same.

 

True but to get the car to stay on the ground and straight you need 10 k in suspension and a miracle. American cars are great but it is nearly impossible to get their power to the ground over certain threshold unless you have a vetter or something with really great weight ratio and center of gravity.... even then you shed up differentials like there is no tomarrow. See road and track with the ligenfelter twin turbio vette... almost 1100 hp and almost as much torque and it was barely in the 11's on drag radials. Bottom line you can't use a high hp rwd car on the street abd expect traction. I have had the pleasure of owning an 03 cobra (they have forged internals stock:manley rods I believe and reduced compression forged pistons)... they can handle 600 rwhp all day with the right tune and enough fuel but fuel becomes an issue (mainly because tuners are morons and try to push more hp than the fuel system can safely support). Fuel systems are EXTREMELTY EXPENSIVE and standalone units are very very rare in the v8 world unless you are a dedicated drag racer. This means the stock ecu with some piggy back chip is trying to handle all that juice... SORRY BAD IDEA... ford ecu's are horrible and it takes literally about 10 hrs to tune a car right even with a good base to start from (I am talking 10 hrs on the dyno, and then even more on the street so it will actually idle without dying at every stop sign). Yes you can make alot of power, but you are more likely to kill yourself in your car then awd (if you aren't a very experienced driver). Idiots think they can have a 600-700 rwhp car put some drag radials on and with little to no experience with high horspepower cars just mash on the gas and go.... they end up sideways at 120mph and in a ditch or around a tree... pretty much anywhere but straight and pretty much anything but smart (some are lucky and are left wondering what they did wrong, most dont get a second chance to find out). AWD and RWD both have their problems, and if they made a v8 evo with forged internals and an awd system I would prb buy it, but they wont because evos are rally cars, not dragsters and it takes alot of money and mods to put them there. I know why cobras handle hp because I have taken them apart, but I have no idea why an evo can handle that kind of abuse... and you know what, I dont care why anymore... it can and I love it. I am a convert- from domestic to foreign because I want practicality and hp, which is non existant in the american car maker market unless you have 70k for a new z06. Mustangs will always have a special place in my heart and on my credit card statement, but I am done with building 10k engine setups (with 30k more in supporting mods: suspension, fuel fuel fuel, new axles and differential, etc etc... oh and dont forget 2500 in tuning costs) that blow up because no one can tune mustangs properly (mainly because the softward and hardware are inferior) and those who can will take deposits starting with your first born. Sorry for the long post, but this kind of brings you guys up to speed on why I am here.