There have been some threads popping up questioning the power and speed of the EVO IX, and some of the claims have just been ludicrous. Seriously, a couple of people are starting these threads claiming their IX is slow and does not feel as fast as their previous STi/STI or SRT-4. The key word in my last sentence is feel, of course a feeling is a matter of personal opinion and differs from person to person. But what gets me is that they're starting these threads, and making a hoopla over feelings. I mean it would be different if you guys were taking your IXs to the strip and were trapping 98-100mph, then I would say yes your IX is indeed slow compared to others. Or if they took their IXs to a dyno (say for instance a dynojet) and put down 230-235whp, then I would say yes your IX is not as powerful as other IXs. But what evidence do they have to make such far-reaching claims is their feelings. Like I said these people's feelings are their own personal experience and not the same for others, I for instance have had some seat time in a STi and felt that my IX pulls a lot harder under full acceleration. The EVO and STi/STI while similiar in performance (with a slight advantage to the EVO) have a different feel to them, and I would like to post a qoute by evom.net member fromWRXtoEVO that explains it very well-

Honestly I don't think you are crazy and actually your comments are some how credible up to a point.
Let me explain, the STI is well known to have the feeling of "pulling harder", as someone mentioned before the type of power output,gear ration, engine reving and spool up make the two cars feel a bit different.

Just so that I can give you the piece of mine, I have perhaps all the STI/EVO magazine test sold in teh USA, even the European ones, the STI is NOT faster than the Evo 9.

Clearly what you are perceiving is the instant response of the small VF39 turbo series on the STI, that mated with a 2.5l displacement plus very short gear ratios plus a engine that does rev as high as the Evo all that makes you think that you are going faster.

The regular Evo 9 speed has taller gears and much bigger turbo, perhaps the STI spools up faster but the Evo 9 is putting more air at lower rpms and boost levels.

The one down side about the Evo 9 engine is that is has a power/boost surge at around 5500rpm, the boost vanishes rapidly after 5500rpm on stock trim.

You should take your car to the track and compare with other friends with STI's.

Put a $80 MBC(Hallman, or Unos) and the game is over, you will quickly find out what engine is superior to the other, STI's stock VF39 dies with boost, 16G comes alive when you boost it

my .2c

Carlos

One of our newest members- ApexSilver06MR is a previous STi owner who now now owns an EVO IX. Notice the lack of complaints when it comes to his vehicles power and speed, he took his IX to the strip and clicked of a 13.3@104mph in 100 degree heat and 91 octane pump gas.

Please new IX owners who fit the category I am talking about, if you going to post these threads, please have some credible evidence to support your claims. I understand you all just had some concerns (which could have been answered by your own doing) and hey this is what the forums are for. So hopefully this ends it, and if you question you IXs power and performance, read this thread or take it to the track/strip/dyno.

 

everybody is entitled to their opinion. And shouldn't be bashed because of that.

 

I am sure people have heavy modded sti's and srt's and then are getting in a stock IX. I don't think thats a fair to compare a modded sti to a stock evo

 

If we're talking modded to stock cars I understand that 100%. My lightly modded GSX will smoke my Evo right now, but if we're talking stock vs. stock, I can't imagine people are dumb enough to make those claims. The STI probably does "feel" faster because of the displcaement and the nature of the beast, but it's been tested and proven over and over that the IX's have got the STI's beat. SRT-4's... that's a fuggin joke.
I think the bottom line is any car can be faster than another at a given point in the powerband, but things like 1/4 mile or road course times are a much better judge of a cars ability.

 

I've been looking into getting either an STi or EVO after I sell my 240's. I'm going to go try and test drive some this week, we'll see how they feel compared to my 300whp 240sx

 

We are talking stock vs. stock.

 

Stock STIs feel much faster but they are not. My friend who owns an STI kept trying to race me and I wouldn't because his car seemed much faster. One day after he added meth and got a tune (on top of all sorts of bolt on parts), I figured I would lose, so why not race. With my cams, exhaust, intake, and mail in flash I blew him out of the water from a roll everytime. In first gear we were pretty even but once I got into 3rd it was all over. My car is an 03' BTW.

 

Who said anything about bashing? This is merely an informative post. If you want to think your Stock STi/STI is still faster than a Stock Evo VIII/IX, Koodles for you! This is good info though. Also try searching before posting. There are plenty of threads floating around about this now.

 

Please, let us know about your experience on both cars.

 

i have a stock evo8 and i kill my friends sti i think it comes down to the torque we go head up till 3rd gear then its all over the pulling starts

 

Read first who initiated this thread originally, and then you can talk.

This gentleman that initiated this thread was just all over a guy that had just purchased his EVO IX. And was just giving his commentary of how it felt compared to his previous vehicle, which was an STI. That's all.


Listen I've got an STI and thinking of getting a IX MR myself. And have never said my STI stock is faster than an EVO or viceversa. So read before you talk.


These cars are very similar to each other, most of the times if cars equal, the driver has to do a lot.

 

The original poster is stating facts and also facts from another member. Where in his post is he bashing anyone? I have read this thread and the other ones. If he was bashing someone in another thread, I may have missed it but he is NOT bashing anyone in THIS thread. If you think he is...maybe you should get checked or something. This info here is handy for all those STi/STI, SRT-4 or whatever car that changes to an Evo...

I'm not trying to argue with you or anything...this is just an Informational thread that I see beneficial to everyone else which I do not see anyone getting bashed at in this thread...

 

I own a 2005 STi with a Cobb stage 2. This spring I bought a new Evo IX MR. I too thought the STi was faster. It seemed to pull harder than the stock Evo but that is what I would expect from a stage 2 modified car.

Then on Memorial Day my wife and I took a few pulls to see how they matched up. I was in the STi and she was in the Evo. The Evo had absolutely no problems staying with the STi. The Evo was even able to start pulling slightly at higher RPMs. I was shocked that a stock Evo with 800 miles had no problem at all dealing with a modified STi with 16k on the odometer.

I had the STi dyno'd a few weeks ago and it had 253 hp at the wheels. I would guess that the Evo has just about the same amount of power based upon the outcome of the 10 or so different pulls against the STi.

I absolutely agree with the OP in that the STi delivers the power in a very different style than the Evo. Also, the extremely short gears of the STi really hinder it in straight line races. I had the STi protuned and it now has 304 hp at the wheels. I would be really interested to see how it will compare to the Evo now. The only way to truely measure the speed of two cars is by racing them or comparing times. The butt dyno just doesn't give a true indication of the power of a car.

 

Very similar, yes, but that's mainly the Evo VIII vs STi. The IX is on a whole new level never before seen.

 

Yes a whole different level that makes the sti childsplay hahaa.