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Buying an EVO with a 100K. Yes or no?

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by sdfontanini
don't know what you're talking about being negative, I'm being practical. How many evos have you driven in? How many have you worked on. It's obvious you don't even know what you're getting into considering you saying it'll cost you $25K to build an evo. That's ridiculous. Like I said before I would not buy this unless you're planning on rebuilding the engine completely, along with the transmission, transfer case and rear diff. Think about all the other parts on that car that have 100K miles on it. Your axles, all your selenoid valves, your gaskets will all be on their last leg. Your rods and rod bolts are probably ready to go. And carfax isn't going to tell you if one of the previous owners had a big turbo on it or not. Carfax is a total waste of money IMO. You're gonna have to replace the clutch, rotors, and who knows what else.

Put it this way. I'm in an evo shop almost everyday and have seen probably over 40 different evos just this year. Ranging from stock evo all the way up to 500+ whp T4 setups. I've seen many, many new customers bring in their stock appearing evo only to find out it's already been built once and returned to stock appearance to sell. Even if this block never had a big turbo strapped to it, I have no doubt your cylinder walls, pistons and rods are really worn out. Honestly dude I think you're going to find out when you start building on this engine that you're going to run into more issues than you ever dreamed possible. Like I told you before the least you should do is a compression test. But if you're not going to listen to me then good luck, don't tell you I told you so a few months down the road. Best of luck buddy
I will be running a compression test on the motor. I never said it would cost 25k to build an EVO, I said I would not spend 25k on a low mileage EVO, when I'm eventually going to build it. Yes, you are correct. The rotating assembly probably has ware on it, I would expect that from 100k miles. Can it still function in perfect working order? I think so. The Japanese are known for reliability, and good engineering. Yes, I know the t-case is weak. I will look into it and check for signs in case it's bad. The clutch has been changed recently from a reputable shop. Exedy Stage 2. Have I been around EVO's? Well my best friend and his brother both own EVO's. I actually pulled the head off one, and installed a 35r kit, TBE, etc. I have done various work on EVO's. I have also worked on Subaru's, rotary's, and Honda's I know them like the back of my hand. I have swapped them, built them, and boosted them. Mechanically inclined? I think so. I've even blueprinted a motor using specialty measuring tools like micrometers, tape gauges, etc. The only reason I want a shop to change fluids or do any mechanical work is while I still have a payment I would like documentation in case I sell.

I came on here to get the opinion of EVO owners and I respect everyone's opinion. Ultimately I will make the decision, which will be a smart and mature one. I refuse to open a can of worms.

But, I love to hear what you guys have to say. So keep them coming!
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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AH! I know that evo! Remember the owner a few years ago.. but I forgot his name! He use to drive it intensely and drove to work like 25 miles each way or something that. Crazy.

Definitely inspect the engine though.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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contact Mitsu with the Vin and check on what kind of work they have done... this is usually a good indication on what kind of maint. has been done.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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well good luck, I hope the block isn't shot. If your thrust bearings are gone you're gonna need a new block just so you know.

Another thing I'd check before buying it would be the oil pan drain plug. check and see if you see any metal shavings, pay special attention to the type of metal that's stuck on the drain plug. If it's brass / gold in color you already know your thrust bearing are gone. and in that case I wouldn't buy it. I'd also look and see what sort of shavings are on your tranny, transfercase and rear diff. drain plugs, since this would be a good indication as to the wear and condition they're in. Lastly I'd pop off your clutch plug and see how much dust has accumulated, since this will give you a good indication on the wear of the clutch. Well that's all I can think of at the moment. I wish you the best of luck bro.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedWhtMR
contact Mitsu with the Vin and check on what kind of work they have done... this is usually a good indication on what kind of maint. has been done.
Elaborate.

Originally Posted by sdfontanini
well good luck, I hope the block isn't shot. If your thrust bearings are gone you're gonna need a new block just so you know.

Another thing I'd check before buying it would be the oil pan drain plug. check and see if you see any metal shavings, pay special attention to the type of metal that's stuck on the drain plug. If it's brass / gold in color you already know your thrust bearing are gone. and in that case I wouldn't buy it. I'd also look and see what sort of shavings are on your tranny, transfercase and rear diff. drain plugs, since this would be a good indication as to the wear and condition they're in. Lastly I'd pop off your clutch plug and see how much dust has accumulated, since this will give you a good indication on the wear of the clutch. Well that's all I can think of at the moment. I wish you the best of luck bro.
Very good suggestion! Hope he let's me do it.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:44 AM
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Alright. So I contacted a local shop Speed Industry to see if they will go over the car with me as well. That way we can check the drain plugs, pull off the wheels get a look at the suspension and brakes. They have AWD Mustang Dyno, and they do a lot of work to EVO's so I don't mind there opinion. Hopefully they pull through, I'll even pay for an hour of labor

-Alex
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Jan is a good guy. They will check it all.

If you dyno, it should read 210-220 on that Mustang.
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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i thought u will need to do a major service on the stock turbo at 100k?
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 08:47 AM
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Nope.
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