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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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hey man, i'm not far from you. i'm over in tinton falls.

your best bet is between the VIII and IX. from there, since you seem set on an aftermarket turbo, all it comes down to is personal preference, and/or which you can get a better deal on. if the seats, wheels, headlights, tailights, and bumper of the VIII don't bother you, you may find a better deal on an VIII. good luck on your search.
Yea, i might see you on the road sometime.
Looks dont matter to me; anyway i can always change the viii exterior to the ix exterior if i wanted. I will try to find the best deal for a GG or WW ix or viii.
If i go with the viii which year would be best if i wanted to go all out and make a lets say 700awhp+ beast?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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with that much power it really won't matter lol. your going to need a built motor at that point anyways. also it won't be much of a daily driver anymore either. i think you'll be more than happy with a 400awhp stock motor evo.

as stated earlier, if you are going big turbo, it doesn't really matter what year you go with. if you plan on sticking with stock turbo, get an 05 viii or 06 ix the 05 has the larger compressor housing, and the 06 has the larger compressor housing as well as mivec

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:41 PM
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[quote=BoostKid87;7989197]with that much power it really won't matter lol. your going to need a built motor at that point anyways. also it won't be much of a daily driver anymore either. i think you'll be more than happy with a 400awhp stock motor evo.

as stated earlier, if you are going big turbo, it doesn't really matter what year you go with. if you plan on sticking with stock turbo, get an 05 viii or 06 ix the 05 has the larger compressor housing, and the 06 has the larger compressor housing as well as mivec[/quote

Yea, im just saying lol. Your rite i probably will go with a 400awhp+ Evo.
SO , you say it wont really matter which Evo i go with an viii or an ix? In your opionin which evo the viii or ix can you do the most with ( which has more aftermarket parts available)?
Thanks alot man for the helpful info.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Once you switch cams the advantage of the 8 and the 9 practically disappears.

There is a certain satisfaction to having a 9 over an 8 though. You may even once see a 9 and think to yourself that you wished you got it. That would be enough to do it for me.

Of course you can change the exterior of the 8 to look exactly like a 9, so it doesnt matter tooo much
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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[quote=kyooch;7989256]Once you switch cams the advantage of the 8 and the 9 practically disappears.

There is a certain satisfaction to having a 9 over an 8 though. You may even once see a 9 and think to yourself that you wished you got it. That would be enough to do it for me.

Of course you can change the exterior of the 8 to look exactly like a 9, so it doesnt matter tooo much[/quote

Do you mean that the viii ans ix are practically the same once you change the cams?
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:16 PM
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Once you switch cams the advantage of the 8 and the 9 practically disappears.

There is a certain satisfaction to having a 9 over an 8 though. You may even once see a 9 and think to yourself that you wished you got it. That would be enough to do it for me.

Of course you can change the exterior of the 8 to look exactly like a 9, so it doesnt matter tooo much[/quote

Do you mean that the viii ans ix are practically the same once you change the cams?
the 9 still has mivec, the advantage margin just shrinks. the car may have some unseen changes to the awd system. If you're gonna get an 8 though, it's gotta be a 2005 - big differences between that and the 03-04's
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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Ive had the VIII and I now have the X. I love the X for sure, miss my VIII of course. I say the X cause I love the cruise control and its IMO better interior and meaner exterior design. I truely love the non electronic AWD of the VIII over the X though. Parts are alot easier to get for the VIII then the X, but honestly its going to be hard to find an VIII or IX thats has not been abused. I do know 2 IX's that have not been abused in this area if your interested.

The X was a great buy for me, parts make power good as well.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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You're kind of all over the place.

In post #1 you said you wanted a reliable daily driver with 400+ awhp, which between an 8, 9 or 10 would all fit the bill depending on the parts you go with.

The 9 would be the easiest to achieve this but costs slightly more than an 8 to start with.

Then in post #30 you stated you wanted to eventually build one of the fastest Evo's out there.

At big HP levels reliability takes a big downturn and maintenance costs increase especially if you plan to drag the car as you first posted.


My advice get a 8 or 9 and go full bolt-ons and alcohol injection on the stock turbo; you'll be right at the 400-430 awhp level and have some of the parts needed for a future big build (FMIC, FMIC piping, exhaust, etc.).

At this point you can save up for a big build.


If you're planning to buy a car like an Evo to modify to make it one of the fastest, you should have a clear path just to avoid wasting money of parts you'll eventually change out.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck .
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by awdturbopsi;
If i wanted to eventually build one or the fastest evos which would do better an ix or viii? Or would it not matter?
The fact remains that the fastest accelerating Evo is an VIII, which a lot of people will point out. That aside, generally speaking, most people will have an easier time making a faster Evo if you use a IX as your starting point.
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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everyone is talkig but no one is really pointing the guy to the right direction. First of all what is your budget 12k,13k,20k,40k??? What are you trying to spend? An evo X with no money down will run around 450-500 a month, and evo 9 will go from 350-400 a month, and evo 8 will go from 200-350 a month, all these prices ae exluding insuance. Is money an issue??

Okay now performance wise. Evo 8's are perfect for drag racing due to the fact of being able to run aggresive timing when tuned. Evo 9's have mivec which is the same idea as "VTEC", but mivec can only go so far and cant be tuned very aggressive and evo 9+2005 evo 8 also have an ACD. Evo 8 has a smaller turbo so quicker spool and faster aceleration down low. Evo 9 slightly bigger turbo with more power up top. A lot of guys say to get a 9 since all the bugs have been worked out!!! What bugs, evo has been around for a decade now so i am sure they are all worked out pretty good. Yeah you can find little things here and there BUT nothing that will interefere with the reliabilty of the car. All it matters is that all evo's 8,9, and 10 are VERY well built cars so do not worry which one you pick because you will love all of them. BTW as for mivec trust me with some aftermarket cams on your evo 8, then you gona say what mivec??

The prices of the cars are there for a reaon. You can buy a 9 for 20k stock or small bot ons or buy a 8 for 16k (with low miles) and put the other 4k on upgrades and you will be faster than a 9.

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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:06 AM
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the 9 still has mivec, the advantage margin just shrinks. the car may have some unseen changes to the awd system. If you're gonna get an 8 though, it's gotta be a 2005 - big differences between that and the 03-04's
Thanks, yea thats what i have been told from alot of people to get a 05 if i get a viii and thanks what i will most likely do if i cant find a great deal on an ix.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 6-speed
You're kind of all over the place.

In post #1 you said you wanted a reliable daily driver with 400+ awhp, which between an 8, 9 or 10 would all fit the bill depending on the parts you go with.

The 9 would be the easiest to achieve this but costs slightly more than an 8 to start with.

Then in post #30 you stated you wanted to eventually build one of the fastest Evo's out there.

At big HP levels reliability takes a big downturn and maintenance costs increase especially if you plan to drag the car as you first posted.


My advice get a 8 or 9 and go full bolt-ons and alcohol injection on the stock turbo; you'll be right at the 400-430 awhp level and have some of the parts needed for a future big build (FMIC, FMIC piping, exhaust, etc.).

At this point you can save up for a big build.


If you're planning to buy a car like an Evo to modify to make it one of the fastest, you should have a clear path just to avoid wasting money of parts you'll eventually change out.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck .
Great advice,
Sorry i was jumping around alot.
I was just trying to find out the most info. i could.
Yea thats probably what i would do for now, so i have a fast dd.

Thanks Again
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 6-speed
You're kind of all over the place.

In post #1 you said you wanted a reliable daily driver with 400+ awhp, which between an 8, 9 or 10 would all fit the bill depending on the parts you go with.

The 9 would be the easiest to achieve this but costs slightly more than an 8 to start with.

Then in post #30 you stated you wanted to eventually build one of the fastest Evo's out there.

At big HP levels reliability takes a big downturn and maintenance costs increase especially if you plan to drag the car as you first posted.


My advice get a 8 or 9 and go full bolt-ons and alcohol injection on the stock turbo; you'll be right at the 400-430 awhp level and have some of the parts needed for a future big build (FMIC, FMIC piping, exhaust, etc.).

At this point you can save up for a big build.


If you're planning to buy a car like an Evo to modify to make it one of the fastest, you should have a clear path just to avoid wasting money of parts you'll eventually change out.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck .
Great advice,
Sorry i was jumping around alot.
I was just trying to find out the most info. i could.
Yea thats probably what i would do for now, so i have a fast dd.

Thanks Again
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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everyone is talkig but no one is really pointing the guy to the right direction. First of all what is your budget 12k,13k,20k,40k??? What are you trying to spend? An evo X with no money down will run around 450-500 a month, and evo 9 will go from 350-400 a month, and evo 8 will go from 200-350 a month, all these prices ae exluding insuance. Is money an issue??

Okay now performance wise. Evo 8's are perfect for drag racing due to the fact of being able to run aggresive timing when tuned. Evo 9's have mivec which is the same idea as "VTEC", but mivec can only go so far and cant be tuned very aggressive and evo 9+2005 evo 8 also have an ACD. Evo 8 has a smaller turbo so quicker spool and faster aceleration down low. Evo 9 slightly bigger turbo with more power up top. A lot of guys say to get a 9 since all the bugs have been worked out!!! What bugs, evo has been around for a decade now so i am sure they are all worked out pretty good. Yeah you can find little things here and there BUT nothing that will interefere with the reliabilty of the car. All it matters is that all evo's 8,9, and 10 are VERY well built cars so do not worry which one you pick because you will love all of them. BTW as for mivec trust me with some aftermarket cams on your evo 8, then you gona say what mivec??

The prices of the cars are there for a reaon. You can buy a 9 for 20k stock or small bot ons or buy a 8 for 16k (with low miles) and put the other 4k on upgrades and you will be faster than a 9.
Sorry, i havent specified it but i dont have a budget and it will be a cash deal.
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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by erald01
Evo 8's are perfect for drag racing due to the fact of being able to run aggresive timing when tuned. Evo 9's have mivec which is the same idea as "VTEC", but mivec can only go so far and cant be tuned very aggressive and evo 9+2005 evo 8 also have an ACD.
The VIIIs aren't any better than the IXs for drag racing. Plus I don't know where this gibberish about the MIVE not being able to be tuned aggressively, or even why you're bringing up ACD.

Originally Posted by erald01
Evo 8 has a smaller turbo so quicker spool and faster aceleration down low. Evo 9 slightly bigger turbo with more power up top.
While you are correct about the IXs having slightly larger turbos, you couldn't be more wrong about the spooling and acceleration. It's no secret that the MIVEC enhances timing to help the car's acceleration down low, which is a result of the torque curve for a IX being stronger before hitting peak torque compared to the VIII.

Originally Posted by erald01
A lot of guys say to get a 9 since all the bugs have been worked out!!! What bugs, evo has been around for a decade now so i am sure they are all worked out pretty good. Yeah you can find little things here and there BUT nothing that will interefere with the reliabilty of the car.
You just answered your own questions... the "bugs" are indeed "little things here and there." Obviously the engine itself is going to be pretty rock-solid, though there were annoying things like the Brembo caliper paint peeling, or the clearcoat on the carbon fiber wing going bad, etc. They're not a huge deal, but I'd rather avoid those tiny issues if I could.

Originally Posted by erald01
All it matters is that all evo's 8,9, and 10 are VERY well built cars so do not worry which one you pick because you will love all of them.


Originally Posted by erald01
BTW as for mivec trust me with some aftermarket cams on your evo 8, then you gona say what mivec??
Not always true. Starting from stock, as I said before, it's been known that an Evo IX with a TBE and a tune will produce just as much power as an Evo VIII with a TBE, cams and a tune. Personally, I like the flexibility, along with not having to open up the head.
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