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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:27 AM
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Are Evos really that Fast?

So I have seen videos all over YouTube of 500whp Evos beating 550-600whp Corvettes and 600-650whp mustangs.

Why do we have the advantage? Our cars are lighter? Evos are just so damn quick
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:33 AM
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yes, its DEFINITELY weight making a 4 door all wheel drive sedan quicker with less power than rear wheel drive coupe cars.

jeesh, a quick google of car weights should clearly show you evo's are very light when compared to a c5/c6 vette.

trollololololol
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:39 AM
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Evo and fast do not belong in the same sentence...
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IGetItPoppin
Evo and fast do not belong in the same sentence...
speak for yourself and stop bragging about your own car....


The evo was built as a Group-N WRC rally car. To be built for Group-N, a street legal version has to be available to the general public.

The Evo has a lot of racing heritage and multiple WRC world championships with the CTD9a chassis.

It's a great platform to work with.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypcodiiihop
yes, its DEFINITELY weight making a 4 door all wheel drive sedan quicker with less power than rear wheel drive coupe cars.

jeesh, a quick google of car weights should clearly show you evo's are very light when compared to a c5/c6 vette.

trollololololol
As per specs I googled online of the cars I've seen race with full interior.

Evo 8 3,109lbs. 2012 corvette z06 3,199lbs
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Randal
As per specs I googled online of the cars I've seen race with full interior.

Evo 8 3,109lbs. 2012 corvette z06 3,199lbs
you are correct but also think about this, most of the evo you see racing are tuned so we are talking about AWHP and Z06 are crank 505 but like 420 to 450 WHP.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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you are correct but also think about this, most of the evo you see racing are tuned so we are talking about AWHP and Z06 are crank 505 but like 420 to 450 WHP.
I see you overlooked it but I mentioned WHP on all vehicles. Dyno verified.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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Wish my Evo would have started out that light in weight. I think that number is off quite a bit. My car was just over 3400lb in factory trim with about 1/4 tank of gas...no SSL anything. Just a standard GSR. Maybe the true RS version is that light.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisw
speak for yourself and stop bragging about your own car....


The evo was built as a Group-N WRC rally car. To be built for Group-N, a street legal version has to be available to the general public.

The Evo has a lot of racing heritage and multiple WRC world championships with the CTD9a chassis.

It's a great platform to work with.
Your sarcasm detector is broken bud.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisw
speak for yourself and stop bragging about your own car....


The evo was built as a Group-N WRC rally car. To be built for Group-N, a street legal version has to be available to the general public.

The Evo has a lot of racing heritage and multiple WRC world championships with the CTD9a chassis.

It's a great platform to work with.

What platform is that?
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Evos are more forgiving and easier to drive at the limits than say a Z06. Also, a majority of the folks who can afford a Z06 are the type of older businessmen that probably cant drive worth a damn. Ive been out at autox and hpde with the corvette clubs and majority of the folks aren't that fast drivers. I remember back in the day a corvette event, one driver mistaked the gas pedal for the brake and proceeded to run off course and jump over median and plowed down a small tree... it was a fairly slow autox course too.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypcodiiihop
yes, its DEFINITELY weight making a 4 door all wheel drive sedan quicker with less power than rear wheel drive coupe cars.

jeesh, a quick google of car weights should clearly show you evo's are very light when compared to a c5/c6 vette.

trollololololol
Wrong ! vette's are about the same weight as a evo my c6 door sticker is actually 200lbs lighter.

Put down 440 rwhp with full exhaust, intake, tune. But sadly slower in 1/4th do to traction mostly....

Last edited by kaonashi; Mar 3, 2013 at 08:18 AM.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 08:19 AM
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To answer your question yes ! But with great power comes great responsibility
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Its all about the driver. If you cannot drive for **** your power does not matter. Also around a road track HP does not mean as much, I have seen stock *** miatas with coils and track brakes working up on Evos and Vettes.
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Old Mar 3, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Any RWD car is always geared very long per gear, at least stock. For example a C6 Z06 is geared stock to max out 6th gear at about 225mph. RWD cars are geared long as ***** for a few reasons, to help them appear to have awesome gas mileage by keeping revvs low, and 2 to help keep them from spinning as much as possible.

Evo's have extremely shallow gearing, so that translates to super quick acceleration and rapetrain performance up til about 140mph, where the Evo begins dying due to that super stubby gearing. Revvs can make up for that of course, but aerodynamics isnt on the evo's side compared to other cars, like the Z06 at 140mph+ territory. The Z06 is certainly no slouch by any means especially in stock form, but it cant really get out of its own way til about 65 or 70mph due to that gearing lag, and particularly because its likely going to spin without the right tire. The driver either needs to be super high in the rev's and then the car will spin and actuate a quick shift to the next gear, or they have to start in that next gear and then the car goes nowhere due to being lower in the RPM range. So race one from 40mph, and youre likely to put a good distance on it.
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