Pimpson just proved my point with his ooohhh so clever, and witty response..."He's an idiot".....but actually he did just partially describe the setup as i stated earlier..surely pimpson can`t be so nieve to think that your biggest install problem is A ****ing intercooler!!! I never said the engine exchange was easy and utterly inexpensive...I only wished to imply that if one is clever ,and has keen mechanical skills, the task can be accomplished...My shop is in the process of conducting the swap now and it aint cost'n us $20,000 .....so in all, yes Pimpson I have the mechanical Skills to conduct the swap with turbo, and custom intercooler ...OH and when it's completed you'll probly still be slow...Cheer's

 

My exact words were You're retarded.

The biggest install problem after getting the engine mounts in, is going to be mating a transmission to the Lancer and the 4g63..but you'll find out since you're "shop" is in the process, hope you have fun wasting the money that could have bought new pistons and a FMIC turbo kit for the 4g94.

One last thing...at least I don't live in texas ho

oh yeah, Naive has one e

thanks Paul!!!

 

I'm not really one to carry on a childish argument, and i could give a damn about Grammer errors..I dont no why members like Pimple even bother to reply..The RRM turbo cost around $3800 with intercooler,and it seem's to be great.the 4g63t engine can be found for that price or less with tranny..I already know about the problem of mating the transmission but fortuately we have a excellant machine shop assitting in that department.I recommend you do get the turbo kit,and pistons... but even then you'll still come shy of the capability the 4g63t will have stock ...Oh and the "Your and iDIOT" phrase was referring to you Pimpson!!

 

good luck with that. Understand you came under attack by stating that it was the fault of evolved members for discouraging people from thinking the 4g63t was the way to go. Unless you have the capabilites of a machinist then it is vastly unfeasable, even with one you won't be producing more hp than the money spent on the stock engine. "potential" aside

p.s. fwd cars don't drift

 

"Grammar" and "you're" while we're at it. You happen to have a shop, Typhoon. Most people DO NOT and will have to pay labor...which would not be cheap. I still think it's a foolish idea to swap because most people won't even push a 4g93 to it's potential, much less to the point where a 4g63 would be more beneficial. The fact that most parts you get for the engine to fit the Lancer compartment will have to be modded to fit should be enough to make further modding annoying if nothing else. No one has ever explained to me what makes this swap a good idea. I'm failing to see the real benefits. btw, comparing the price of an intercooled RRM turbo kit to your own shop's engine swap doesn't make sense. If you were to comare some sort of "engine swap kit" then it'd make more sense. You're not paying for development, manpower or labor when you do it yourself like you are when you buy another company's parts. If you were to build your own turbo setup and bend your own piping I bet the coast would be far cheaper than your engine swap.

And both of you, keep the name calling to PMs please. Read the forum rules if you don't understand why.

 

I do sincerely withdraw all prior insult's.I do on the other hand think that the swap is very possible..Granted I've access to an extensive amount of resources in comparison to your average joe smoe.The comparison for the price of the RRM turbo,and with my shop's install is just a variable price for what you might find the 4g63t on site's such as ARD performance.The reason we are even testing the swap is to mount the all-wheel drive set up..granted I've got a vast amount of cutting,and rewelding the project is looking good..As for my motive's,I just like to make possible what everyone thinks cannot be..Yea it'll not be an Evo,but non-the less it'll be a excellant car to toss about with a far less price tag then the slightly sub $30,000 of the Evo IIV ...The comment about
many evolved member's annoying me was simply aimed at those member's who are alway's negitive when someone even asks about the possibility of a 4g63t swap..Member's who reply with phrases such as (your ReTARDED)...I hate people who assume things when they don't know you, or your capabilitie's. I've read the forums tons of times,and i know the complex things envolved in the swap;when it's complete, and stomp'n the crap outta underestmating racer's then nobody will be objecting......And I still don't care about GRAMMAR!!

 

wow, so your going the whole 9 yards and gonna redo the drivetrain too? My sincerest best of lucks with that, and at keeping the whole project under 14,000 you should have a slammin car that will only be missin body welds and wheel flares.

What kind of differentials will you utilize? Any thought of mounting the AYC system?

 

The Project is going well we plan on using Cusco lsd's..but that is one of the main expensive component's with the project. When the project is finished I'll most definitely be posting pic's with the car, and me cheez'n in the background for all the disbeliever's to gaze in awe..C-ya

 

Since Sean Glazer didn't succeed using his stout 1g Talon engine in a 5g drag mirage coupe (suffer severe TQ steer), good luck on your lancer (a bit stronger chassis).

I still think you'll spend up to 13 grand (or more) tuning and welding.

 

The project is definately nerve wrecking,but I'm definitely skilled at cutting corner's, or as i say,Jury Rig'n crap to work.I definitely am a penny pincher; so I've no plans of exceding $14,000 on the car. alot of the part's for the car we get pretty cheap because we order through the shop,and I've got a many of allies who befriend me,and are delighted to attain hard to find items for me(I dont ask how they get them,and they dont tell).I just look forward to posting the completed project with a copy of detailed instructions for performing the swap,and variable price's for the part's needed,most part's can be bargained for around people's local communitie's and auto stores.

 

Anything is possible...if you got the $$$ and time to invest in your project. I say go for it Whether it is practical or not......who cares Do you?? If it's the challenge of this project that appeals to you...then more power to ya
I'm EVO owner and I say it can be done..whether the swap will be worth the money and time you're gonna end up spending...is question only you can answer GOOD LUCK

PS I think a guy did EVO conversion on a mirage (engne included)
I think it was Hawaii speed or something like that. He might give you insight on a Lancer conversions...or talk to some Aussies, they have had both the EVO and Lancers for while now..

 

It's not the possibility that's in question here as far as I'm concerned. It's the necessity and practicality. I don't see why buying an AWD platform to start wouldn't be more practical...and I don't see why you'd want to cut any corners, Typhoon. (Since you mentioned it). I suppose it's a good car to do an AWD build on next to a FWD Subaru or a Mirage, but I dunno...I just don't understand the fascination. It's like setting your car up for future problems insofar as I can see it. And that's not meant as a jab at your ability to do the work, Typhoon, but I think custom jobs are generally far more likely to fail in a case like this.

 

The EVO conversion has been done in the US already, but the owners are usually doctors or lawyer type. They are involved with the show circuit, and most of them don't dare to drag it on the track w/ just the stock Evo motor and tranny.

 

Practicality...Well for starter's, Starting with an all wheel drive platform would be Great Hobie.I Did'nt Have the $30,000 G's it's gonna take for a Evo,and I particularly like the look of our lancer.I imagine that most people who intend to buy the evo will definitely want new high performance parts..that alone will put your average consumer in the high 30-40 price range(car price included).I purchased the Lancer for $14,500,even if I put $10,000 into the engine, and drive train work, it'll still put me just around the same price as the $24,600 price tag of the WRX...Yet all the parts I'll have used in the install will be my choice in quality upgraded parts..where as the wrx only comes with factory selected parts.I have tested the durability of the lancer platform an it truely isn't as poor as many make it out to be.The lancer only require's Firm Coil- over's such as JIC Magic or tein,and with the addition of sturdy front, and rear sway bar's many would be shocked at it's handling capabilitie's. I'm not particularly concerned with the fact that I don't have an exact evo body cause I personally Dig the wide- body GTR kit that Accolade is developing for the Lancer..Well as usual I'm sorry for the horrid gammar,and run on sentence's...laterz

 

Gutting the Lancer, rewelding, chopping etc, is going to keep that durability of the Lancer you herald? Anytime you complicate things, the easier for said thing(s) to go wrong. A 2.5 RS with something like a Vishnu turbocharger kit or a used AWD DSM would have made a much better platform to begin with if you're concerned with frugality of the initial investment.