This post is a cry for help. I want to put an Evo 4G63 engine in my car. After talking with Rob Tallini, he informed me that I would also need to get a transmission and an ECU with wiring harness if the engine does not come with one. I was lead to the site ardperformance.com and saw that they have a 4G63 engine from a lancer for $1900. The site says it will fit in an eclipse and maybe a mirage (the mirage has not been tested), so I want to put one in my lancer. So what I am asking from the lancer community is for some assistance in piecing together the mystery of putting this engine in my car. Yes a turbo would be easier, but I have to be different. So if anyone knows anything that would offer some insight, please help a fellow out. Also any mechanics that may be online and know about cars and you are in the area (PA, NY, OH, VA, WV). If you would like to take up the installation, I am willing to give up my car until it is completed and allow proper time for tests to be performed. I am currently out of the country in Yerevan, Armenia. I bought my lancer in February and only have driven it a month and a half. If anyone can help please do. Thank you

 

From what I have read before, that question has popped before and it has been all negative feedback, due a search on the forums and you will find a couple of threads about it

BTW, I saw a 4G63 for sale on ebay too

 

4g63's are not difficult to find. Engine swaps aren't like changing motors in an R/C car though. Do a search and you will find a couple DOZEN threads identical to this one. As always the bottom line is: you're better off working with what you've got.

 

My guess would be that he knows it's hard to do a 4G63 engine swap in our Lancer, he's just asking if any of us can help him or direct him to somewhere he can be helped. I personally think it's possible, it'll just take a lot of money and labor, but he's probably up to it if he's asking for help. I'm not sure where to get the Evo transmission and ECU chip, but I'm pretty sure once you get those two things, it'd be possible to put the Evo engine in. I mean, I've seen a Kia with a JDM Silvia engine mounted in there, so I'm guessing putting an Evo engine in a Lancer isn't much harder than that. I am interested in seeing how this would turn out if successful, so I'm asking everyone on this board to help too

 

I can't stress enough how impractical the swap is. The chances of anyone pushing their 4g94 to the point where a 4g63 swap would be more efficient are slim to none in the near future...much less in a street car. Read Lan Evo's swap guide in the sig of any of his posts. Collosal waste of time and resources unless you've got tens of thousands of dollars burning a hole in your pocket imo. It makes far more sense just to buy a Galant VR-4 or a GSX/TSi. ...or just wait for the Evo and trade in your Lancer. Your car will be slower, FWD and cost more anyway.

EDIT: I dunno where anyone intends to get help on this. Aside from looking at other engine swaps no one has done this so far (to my knowledge). Don't expect a comprehensive guide or anything.

 

I agree with Hobie, if you got alot of money burning a hole in your pocket. Also if you don't need a vehicle warranity.

 

He'd still have his paint and rust warranty left intact.

EDIT: I don't think much of warranties anyway.

 

mmm....this question sounds very familiar, have I seen this before???

BTW, there are several samples of these "converted" cars running around in the country. However, all of them are converted by 2-3 shops that STOP working on street car already. They have way more "important" customers (sponsored rally teams) to take care of than working this project.

However, if you have $10K for labor and $15-20K for parts, that could be done.

Again, read the FAQ by clicking the link in my signature

 

The conversions HAVE been done? Damn, I dunno how I missed that. Still entirely too much money for entirely too little gain imo. I'd rather do the swap in a Colt/Mirage turbo hatch.

 

And you won't have the "exact" EVO, you will lose body strength...

 

Some of you Evolved Members make me sick..anytime someone has a question concerning the Lancer you all turn up your snobby little noses.The 4G63t can Be done, and it don`t take no $20,000 to do it. The main things are attaining the correct engine mounts,and transmission...As far as the Almighty Evo IIV body strength,Let's face it the lancer share's the same chasis as the Evo but that's about it...but hell half the people who want to do the engine swap could give a rats *** about having a strong enough body to jump a couple of hill's rally racing.The Mission is performance, and style...but it seem's that many of the old heads have forgotten that

 

you're retarded. Engine mounts aren't expensive, a used transmission and engine, could be found for 3,000. No go about putting them in place and find all the neat little things that come up that continue to add cost on..so say you even do it yourself to save on labor and the project ends up at less than 5,000 dollars. (still don't have an intercooler). Do you really think you have the skills to match up a new engine and new transmission in this car? No well me either.

You will still be running slower than $5,000 into the 4g94.

please actually take the time to read the post in Lan's signature. It's very articulate and well done.

 

Age and number of posts have nothing to do with it. It's simply not practical. No one who had posted before was evolved either.

We share the same chassis but lack the numerous spot welds that make the Evo VII so rigid.

 

Just to complicate things further. How about this instead.

FTO MIVEC

Far less complicated than a 4G63 swap?

If the FTO can come equipped with a Lancer engine perhaps the Lancer can be fitted with a FTO plant. 200BHP at 7500 rpm.

 

That V6 MIVEC is a whole different animal than any of the 4 bangers that have been hypothesized. The fitment is probably the biggest issue since even a tiny 6 like that is still probably to big. The only other viable option is a 2nd gen 4G92 MIVEC engine but the rarity and the cost would be enough to dissuade most people.