Just wonfring if I could safely get away with a dry 25 shot on an otherwise stock EVO

 

sure but why? get a good tune and you'll beat that 25 shot no prob, and go E-85 and you'll blow it outta the water.

 

+1

 

just turn up the boost.

 

you dont need nitrous. waste of money and problems.

 

Thanks for the info. I don't mean to play 20 questions here but what about a tune and a 25 shot? Or what about a 50 dry shot? I will look into this E85 tune since I am well aware of the benefits and it is easy to find living in Iowa.

 

Once again. you dont need it. its a waste of money and another reason to blow **** up. just get the right mods and a good tune and you will be fine.

 

Can you explain to me how nitrous is a waste of money, and how you can just blow up? So a bad tune won't blow your car up? Or too much boost, and not enough supporting mods? I'm gonna call BS on this one.


I do however, think a 25hp dry shot is a waste of effort. If your going to spray, man up, and get a wet kit, and at least go for a 50 shot. A stock engine can handle alot, so long as you keep knock away. A wet kit supplies it's own fuel, and there is no "tuning", so as long as your jets are right, it's easy as cake, and by far the best bang for your buck mod you could ever do.

We did an 80 shot on a bone stock engine, with stock injectors, stock intercooler, an open exahust, and 19lbs on a 14b, with no tuning whatsoever. We ran 100 octane race gas to help combat any knock (on boost alone), and always ran a logger to keep an eye on it, as well as timing advance. With the 80 shot, the car pulled nasty, and felt like bolting on a large turbo and running more boost. We never saw a bit of knock, and the car ran awesome! From that day on, I have been a firm believer in the way of the spray!

 

Oh damn the resale value is getting low.

 

so you would rather run nitrous on DD car? Having to refill tanks, and you dont have to tune for it? Not everyone will run 100 oct. to play the safe side on knock. There is plenty of good tuners out there where you can get better results from just a tune ALONE then running a small shot of nitrous. You dont even need to touch the boost after a tune unless your an idiot. Supporting mods dont even need to be that large. For the amount of money a nitroust kit would cost, you can get just as much, if not more power from a tune and other bolt ons. To me, minor bolt ons and a tune would be the route to go. But hey, everyone has their own oppinion. And what is there to call bs on? As I just said, it was my OPINION.

 

Actually, yes. Nitrous is a very cost effective solution for even those who daily drive their car. Yes, you have to refill the tank, but if it's your daily, it won't matter if you don't have it on tap 100% all the time, because if it's your daily, you arent going to be beating the **** out of it all the time, correct? So your spray will only be used when you are ready to use it: so less wear and tear on the engine in the long run.

As far as the 100 octane thing, mabey I wasn't very clear on what it's purpose was. We ran 100 octane at first to combat knock on boost alone, not for spray. This was on a DSM, which has a smaller turbo than an Evo has (14b vs 16g) and was still on stock fuel components aside from a pump, and AFPR, along with stock intercooler (read: heatsoaked crappy sidemount). So, the octane all in all was not for the safety of the spray, but for boost. Had we had been more conservative on the boost, or had more supporting mods, the race gas would not have been nessisary.

As I said, I agree that for such a small shot, it would be a waste of effort, as a 25hp shot isn't really doing much. A wet kit with at least a 50hp shot will actually yeild you more than a 50hp gain, and is well worth the 500 bucks for the kit. You can still be plenty safe, and run more than that, but a 50hp in my opinion would be the minimum shot to be a time and cost effective gain.

My whole point is that nitrous is no more reliable or unreliable as a big turbo and supporting mods, and cheaper. $500 spent otherwise would barely buy you a set of injectors and a tune and assuming you have a bone stock car, wouldn't yeild you the same results as just slapping on a wet kit.

 

^^^ I have to agree with both of you, just on different points. The fact that he wants a 25hp shot is a waste. A tune alone would get him that. BUT, everyone knows the best "Hp per dollar" is nitrous.
400hp shot for $595, you cant beat that.

 

baby's suck on bottles

 

Rather than going the nitrous route I would take some time and read on these forums about basic upgrades. mbc, tb exhaust, tune...is an excellent way to add 60-70whp with maybe a $1,200 investment.

 

And so do some of the fastest V8 street cars in the country.