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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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ETS Short Route vs. ETS Stock Battery UICP

How much of a performance difference is there between these two types of pipes? I remember reading somewhere there's about 6" of difference in pipe length between the two. Will performance suffer significantly with the stock battery pipe?

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 03:30 AM
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Prob not, just preference and how much mulla you want to spend. If I had the extra couple hundred dollars then maybe I wouldve gotten the short route, but i didnt. Its not like its gonna be extra HP, just quicker air flow, hence the shorter piping...guys at ETS correct me if I am wrong...?
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:11 AM
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How will the difference in air flow from the stock battery affect me compared to the short route? If there are minimal differences, then I don't mind getting the stock battery pipe, which will save me $150+
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Just save your money then and get the stock battery route UIP. There is a minimal difference, if any difference between the two.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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i wonder how much heat transfer is reduced by not running right next to the water outlet hose coming out of the engine?

until 1 measures a temperature difference between the 2 pipes of the air entering the throttle body / plenum in order to calculate the air density, your bench racing with regards to power advantage.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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The short route kit offers the shortest piping route for best possible spool and transient response. It is 6" shorter than our stock battery UICP and 14" shorter than the stock UICP. Then of course the 20lbs. of weight savings in going with a small battery kit is also a consideration. It's really up to your personal preference as to what's most important. Because that opinion varies, we offer both

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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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If you are worried about heat transfer, run some of this. I know I'll be using it on my cold side pipes. Hey Tom, what diameter are you IC pipes?

http://www.thermotec.com/products/fu...4005_part.html

I used the Thermotec stuff on all my WRX's cold side FMIC pipes and intake with excellent results. I like the fact that its a sleeve so it just slips right on.
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Old Sep 19, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ETS Tom
The short route kit offers the shortest piping route for best possible spool and transient response. It is 6" shorter than our stock battery UICP and 14" shorter than the stock UICP. Then of course the 20lbs. of weight savings in going with a small battery kit is also a consideration. It's really up to your personal preference as to what's most important. Because that opinion varies, we offer both

Tom
How much transient response does the 14" kit improve over the 6" short kit or stock pipes. Is there a significant difference on a stock VIII turbocharger boosting 22psi?

Do you guys offer a aluminum pipe kit now? Do you have a price? I was under the impression you guys offered the pipe kit in steel and stainless only? Do you know what the weight difference is between the 14" shorter kit and stock pipes are? I would imagine the kit being steel or stainless would actually weigh more than stock pipes. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonestock!
If you are worried about heat transfer, run some of this. I know I'll be using it on my cold side pipes. Hey Tom, what diameter are you IC pipes?

http://www.thermotec.com/products/fu...4005_part.html

I used the Thermotec stuff on all my WRX's cold side FMIC pipes and intake with excellent results. I like the fact that its a sleeve so it just slips right on.
Our piping is 2.5". Past about 700whp we recommend 3" IC piping and can build it for those situations

Thermo-tec does work well!


Originally Posted by Str8Ryda
How much transient response does the 14" kit improve over the 6" short kit or stock pipes. Is there a significant difference on a stock VIII turbocharger boosting 22psi?

Do you guys offer a aluminum pipe kit now? Do you have a price? I was under the impression you guys offered the pipe kit in steel and stainless only? Do you know what the weight difference is between the 14" shorter kit and stock pipes are? I would imagine the kit being steel or stainless would actually weigh more than stock pipes. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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It would be hard to quantify the improvement in transient response because there are so many variables, but it's not going to be a drastic change. If you are at all hesitant to remove your OEM battery then doing the stock battery UICP is probably your best bet.

We can build our piping in aluminum by special order but prefer not to because the 100% SS T-Bolt clamps we include, when tightened correctly, can and will crush aluminum. I don't know the specific weights of each UICP but can say that the OEM pipe w/ flex couplings is very similar in weight to our kits. The benefits of upgrading to our kit are mainly the shorter piping length for spoolup and transient response improvements, all hard piping (doesn't expand under boost), no more blown off couplers and the capacity to run all the boost you could ever want (50+psi) without issue. If you're set on an aluminum kit just get a hold of me by phone or PM and I'll get together a price!

Tom
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