ETS 4" Intercooler
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ETS 4" Intercooler
Really quick, since I dont have pix yet, I wanted to thank ETS for the sweet deal I have and chance to test the 4" street core on my IX. I already had the bumper beam out for "weight" but I had been thinking about how big I can go without trimming my bumper.
Since the car was down for the tranny/T-case/front diff rebuild I took the bumper off and pulled the ACD pump out. While the bumper was off I was looking at how homely the 3.5" core from brand-x was looking and how crappy the core was.
A quick call to my favorite NW turbo place netted me a 4" for testing. So far, with the bigger car I noticed I am down on boost a little (no surprise) but even being 4" the lag that I had felt when I bolted my 3.5 on seems to be gone. Maybe its in my head. Anyway on to testing.
I dont have the additional GM IAT hooked up to log air temps, but the one that is running my MAFT Pro showed 60* ambient with a temp gain of only 15* in a 25# pull on the street. Don't take that as gospel but it definitely does the job. When I have it in a little more controlled enviroment I will be able to watch it closer or maybe have it set to log it by then and I can have some hard factual numbers.
I would like to point out that fit and finish is great, works well, and I cant be happier.
Thanks again to JR, Tom, and Michael for all their help.
Since the car was down for the tranny/T-case/front diff rebuild I took the bumper off and pulled the ACD pump out. While the bumper was off I was looking at how homely the 3.5" core from brand-x was looking and how crappy the core was.
A quick call to my favorite NW turbo place netted me a 4" for testing. So far, with the bigger car I noticed I am down on boost a little (no surprise) but even being 4" the lag that I had felt when I bolted my 3.5 on seems to be gone. Maybe its in my head. Anyway on to testing.
I dont have the additional GM IAT hooked up to log air temps, but the one that is running my MAFT Pro showed 60* ambient with a temp gain of only 15* in a 25# pull on the street. Don't take that as gospel but it definitely does the job. When I have it in a little more controlled enviroment I will be able to watch it closer or maybe have it set to log it by then and I can have some hard factual numbers.
I would like to point out that fit and finish is great, works well, and I cant be happier.
Thanks again to JR, Tom, and Michael for all their help.
Two things:
1) Just as an example, I have the ETS 3.5", and although I don't have any IAT metrics, I can tell you that I ran 30+ drag runs yesterday with my first 10 or so being completely hotlapped with no more than an occasional stop to adjust my launch control. What happened when I hotlapped? My traps kept going UP, not down! I went from 117.5 on the first run to a high of 118.9 on a sunny 75* day, so that's a testament to how well the ETS FMICs work, especially in conjunction with their UICP/LICP combo.
2) John, please either reply here or via PM about removing the bumper beams. I'm curious as to your perceived pros and cons as I've just now begun to focus a little on weight. The car is at 3050 now, which is great for me, but not really "lightened." I'd like to start doing little things here and there without being too noticeable.
1) Just as an example, I have the ETS 3.5", and although I don't have any IAT metrics, I can tell you that I ran 30+ drag runs yesterday with my first 10 or so being completely hotlapped with no more than an occasional stop to adjust my launch control. What happened when I hotlapped? My traps kept going UP, not down! I went from 117.5 on the first run to a high of 118.9 on a sunny 75* day, so that's a testament to how well the ETS FMICs work, especially in conjunction with their UICP/LICP combo.
2) John, please either reply here or via PM about removing the bumper beams. I'm curious as to your perceived pros and cons as I've just now begun to focus a little on weight. The car is at 3050 now, which is great for me, but not really "lightened." I'd like to start doing little things here and there without being too noticeable.
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Warr-
Pros- 30 lbs less weight between the two
Cons-In case of accident your insurance company could concievably get pissed off, though I doubt that they would do anything other than save you in a 5mph crash
Comparing the ETS core to my last its obvious that there are lots more cooling fins inside, it flows better, and makes more power with better spool than the Brand X I had been using.
Frenchy-
Stock motor
S2 cams and BC springs and retainers
Green
E30/255lph
780s
Garage HRS header (waste of money)
Stainless O2 housing
3" TBE, no cat
Trust ICP
ETS 4" FMIC
MAFT Pro speed density with stock ECU tuning
I think that covers all the majors...nothing else jumps out at me right now
Pros- 30 lbs less weight between the two
Cons-In case of accident your insurance company could concievably get pissed off, though I doubt that they would do anything other than save you in a 5mph crash
Comparing the ETS core to my last its obvious that there are lots more cooling fins inside, it flows better, and makes more power with better spool than the Brand X I had been using.
Frenchy-
Stock motor
S2 cams and BC springs and retainers
Green
E30/255lph
780s
Garage HRS header (waste of money)
Stainless O2 housing
3" TBE, no cat
Trust ICP
ETS 4" FMIC
MAFT Pro speed density with stock ECU tuning
I think that covers all the majors...nothing else jumps out at me right now
After seeing your old setup I had expected some good results, so we're glad you're happy Aaron! Lucas mentioned that he saw about a 60-70 degree reduction in temps at the top of his pulls with the new cooler (had similar Brand X on that car prior I believe) installed on the EVO he was running on our dyno late last week, so I don't think it's in your head 
Tom

Tom
I know this has been covered before but i wanted to be lazy and since we are talking about it i figured i would ask real quick. John said he already has his crash beam out for weight. Does the 4 inch core work with the crash beam or do you have to take it off or trim/modify it? Also i'm assuming that there is no trimming needed for the 4 inch core to work with the stock bumper, from what john said? I wanna push the limits of my stock turbo on pump gas and when i get the cash saved up I'm going with ETS intercooler kit, mini battery kit, intake, etc. thanks.
To date I've only had one customer say that their beam has required trimming (so we note that it does) to fit back on with the 4" intercooler installed. Mitsubishi holds a .030" tolerance on their body work and we hold a .010" tolerance on our products, so with both at opposite ends it's possible with such a large intercooler that some trimming will be required. That said, a 3/16" thick washer on each bumper beam stud has been enough (some even indicate that the beam just bolted right back on with no mods) for any other customer attempting to retain the beam thus far. That isn't enough to push the beam into the bumper cover upon reinstallation so it's a win/win! 
Tom
Tom
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I know this has been covered before but i wanted to be lazy and since we are talking about it i figured i would ask real quick. John said he already has his crash beam out for weight. Does the 4 inch core work with the crash beam or do you have to take it off or trim/modify it? Also i'm assuming that there is no trimming needed for the 4 inch core to work with the stock bumper, from what john said? I wanna push the limits of my stock turbo on pump gas and when i get the cash saved up I'm going with ETS intercooler kit, mini battery kit, intake, etc. thanks.
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I didnt have to mod my bumper in anyway either. Bolted it back on after I was done and it was all good.
To date I've only had one customer say that their beam has required trimming (so we note that it does) to fit back on with the 4" intercooler installed. Mitsubishi holds a .030" tolerance on their body work and we hold a .010" tolerance on our products, so with both at opposite ends it's possible with such a large intercooler that some trimming will be required. That said, a 3/16" thick washer on each bumper beam stud has been enough (some even indicate that the beam just bolted right back on with no mods) for any other customer attempting to retain the beam thus far. That isn't enough to push the beam into the bumper cover upon reinstallation so it's a win/win! 
Tom
Tom
Thanks for the quick reply Tom. I can't wait to get money saved up so i can give you a call and you can help me empty my bank account at ETS, haha.
I dont believe this one was:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=347593
I didnt have to mod my bumper in anyway either. Bolted it back on after I was done and it was all good.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=347593
I didnt have to mod my bumper in anyway either. Bolted it back on after I was done and it was all good.
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