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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Isn't this a bit hypocritical?:
No.

Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Just because you accept a ridiculous price means everyone else has to, in the name of resale value?

What ridiculous price? MSRP? lol.

Yes, in the name of resale value and the EVO market. I'm looking at the big picture here, Billy. The '03s and '04s were abused at 2 grand below invoice. Here's a chance for dealerships to hold onto something good. Ask any dealership, "When's the last time something this good came along from Mitsubishi?" The warranty? No. The maintenance? No. Still had to dish out cars well below invoice and top of that, made it impossible for my finance guys to make money.

Nevermind though, that's already blown since a dealership has already sold one for invoice.

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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysinBoost
I sure do!
lol, of course you do =) as i would if i were in your shoes.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzigital
No.

made it impossible for my finance guys to make money.

-Robert
So we are expected to pay more money so your finance guy can make his cut? WTF?
Why don't you sales guys give up some of your commission? It's getting to be damn ridiculous going to a dealership, nowadays. The sales guy makes a commission on the car, then the finance guy tries to talk you into some BS warrantee extension or paint protector so he can make his commission, then you take the car in for service and the service guy tries to talk you into this and that so he can make his commission. It’s all just a big load of BS. Everyone at the dealership is trying to make a commission. I can’t wait for the day that everything is automated online and all you sales people can go find something else to do for a living. ( It’s really not that far off)

By the way anyone who pays MSRP or more for a car is getting ripped off.
Bought my EVO VIII in 04, and paid $26,900 brand new with 10 miles on the OD.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ChodeSlappinFun
So we are expected to pay more money so your finance guy can make his cut? WTF?
Why don't you sales guys give up some of your commission? It's getting to be damn ridiculous going to a dealership, nowadays. The sales guy makes a commission on the car, then the finance guy tries to talk you into some BS warrantee extension or paint protector so he can make his commission, then you take the car in for service and the service guy tries to talk you into this and that so he can make his commission. It’s all just a big load of BS. Everyone at the dealership is trying to make a commission. I can’t wait for the day that everything is automated online and all you sales people can go find something else to do for a living. ( It’s really not that far off)

By the way anyone who pays MSRP or more for a car is getting ripped off.
Bought my EVO VIII in 04, and paid $26,900 brand new with 10 miles on the OD.
wow... another head bumping. it's all good, for i'm used to this and i always come out good in the end.

now, in response to your response of my quote, i was thinking of the big picture. putting myself in the owner's shoes. it's something that has been done and there's nothing we can do it about it (warranty). what i meant to portray, was my sympathy for the finance guys who just sit there and get 8 bucks a deal because they now have no chance at selling warranty's unless it's a pre-owned vehicle, of course.

many people like yourself were able to get the '03 and '04 EVO's for $26,995 and $27,995. this, however, all began after one dealership started advertising 1 at this price. next thing you know, all dealerships were selling them with all stock at this price.

this is a great opportunity to build value back to the EVO's and get at least a part of Mitsubishi back to retail in today's automotive market. the EVO, as you know, is a magnificent vehicle. one of a kind, first to have it all. and now with the new models here with the nice little additions, it should and has let people know these are solid retails vehicles. i don't know for sure, but i haven't heard of X5's and M3's goin' for 2 grand back. i'm sure everything i just typed is going to go into the trash in just a couple months or less because there will be that dealership to start the new price trend. i paid $200 above invoice for an '03 and it felt good to know that i was getting a spectacular deal and still letting my dealership make some money. that's just me though, not everyone is the same.

so to sum up, if you can't handle the pressures of life, people trying to make a sale, face to face conversation and/or negotiation, being able to say no to drugs, appreciating the art of business, and smoothly sticking to your guns.. then maybe you should purchase cars off eBay.

good day *tips hat*.

Last edited by dizzigital; Oct 19, 2004 at 09:07 PM. Reason: couple typo's
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by dizzigital
yeah... hey coolhandsomedude, will you sell me an MR for invoice minus minus and give me a free key chain? i'll buy 5 right now, cash.
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dizzigitaldude: this is america, we can sell stuff for whatever we find right. I think North Korea still likes controling all their prices... Maybe they have some gov jobs there, ever consider it?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:22 AM
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The big picture is that 3 years from now it would be nice if our evo's were worth $24,000 instead of $20,000. Look at all the rebates chevy does. I bought my truck before 9/11 and after chevy started giving everyone $5000. cash back, my trucks value took a beating. cause all of a sudden w/ cash back, my truck was worth $10,000 instead of $15,000. Even the kelly blue book adjusts their prices according to rebates.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:23 AM
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where did u find the evo for 23/24k?
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 500whp.com
where did u find the evo for 23/24k?
I see used 03's running about that price. I hope when my 05 gsr comes in, 5 years from now it's still worth something!
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:30 AM
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Also cause i live in hawaii w/ 1 mitsu dealer on the island, used evo's (03) still run about 28,000 to $33,000. With only one dealer that marks up so much, the evo value is staying pretty high here.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzigital
this is a great opportunity to build value back to the EVO's and get at least a part of Mitsubishi back to retail in today's automotive market. the EVO, as you know, is a magnificent vehicle. one of a kind, first to have it all.
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Hey man, I love my EVO for what it is, but I don’t pretend to make it out to be something it’s not. The EVO is a $12,000 S**t box with about $15,000 in performance add-ons. That’s why I bought it, and that’s exactly what I wanted. There is nothing remotely appealing about the base lancer car that the EVO is built on. The EVO’s appeal is based solely on it’s performance characteristics alone. You may not be aware of this, but very few people buy cars based on that premise. It’s an extremely niche car that appeals only to . 001 percent of the global population. Outside of that small community the car is virtually unknown and un-cared for. The other car’s you mention such as M series, AMG, etc. are built on a foundation which exudes a high level of pedigree. In other words they’re a symbol of status. There is no perception of prestige associated with the EVO, at least not in the US. The other manufacturer’s use that to their advantage. You don’t just go down to your local BMW dealer and grab one of the 10 M5’s they have sitting around on the lot. You know why? Because they don’t have them sitting around, you have to order one. They aren’t trying to sell a bunch of them, they are only selling them to the enthusiast who are willing (and can afford ) to pay big markups. If Mitsubishi only imported 100 EVO’s a year, you can bet there would be a much higher perceived value in the car. As it stands now there are more EVO’s available than there is demand for the car. One of the big reasons for this is that there are a bunch of people out there who rushed out and bought the EVO right away, and then turned around 4 months later and sold it because they decided to “Buy a house”. If everyone who bought an EVO kept it, sure the car would retain value because it would be more difficult to get. The truth is most people don’t need that level of performance and once the initial thrill of having a new car wears off, they realize that they are still just driving a lancer, so they end up selling it to get something with more prestige.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbkkt1
The big picture is that 3 years from now it would be nice if our evo's were worth $24,000 instead of $20,000.
Unfortunately an 05 EVO MR with a sticker of $35k is project to be worth $14k in three years according to any leasing company. That's why no one leases them. Mitsubishis have no resale value
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzigital
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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$14,000 for an MR in 3 years? kool, i'm gonna buy another one as soon as it gets that cheap.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ChodeSlappinFun
Hey man, I love my EVO for what it is, but I don’t pretend to make it out to be something it’s not. The EVO is a $12,000 S**t box with about $15,000 in performance add-ons. That’s why I bought it, and that’s exactly what I wanted. There is nothing remotely appealing about the base lancer car that the EVO is built on. The EVO’s appeal is based solely on it’s performance characteristics alone. You may not be aware of this, but very few people buy cars based on that premise. It’s an extremely niche car that appeals only to . 001 percent of the global population. Outside of that small community the car is virtually unknown and un-cared for. The other car’s you mention such as M series, AMG, etc. are built on a foundation which exudes a high level of pedigree. In other words they’re a symbol of status. There is no perception of prestige associated with the EVO, at least not in the US. The other manufacturer’s use that to their advantage. You don’t just go down to your local BMW dealer and grab one of the 10 M5’s they have sitting around on the lot. You know why? Because they don’t have them sitting around, you have to order one. They aren’t trying to sell a bunch of them, they are only selling them to the enthusiast who are willing (and can afford ) to pay big markups. If Mitsubishi only imported 100 EVO’s a year, you can bet there would be a much higher perceived value in the car. As it stands now there are more EVO’s available than there is demand for the car. One of the big reasons for this is that there are a bunch of people out there who rushed out and bought the EVO right away, and then turned around 4 months later and sold it because they decided to “Buy a house”. If everyone who bought an EVO kept it, sure the car would retain value because it would be more difficult to get. The truth is most people don’t need that level of performance and once the initial thrill of having a new car wears off, they realize that they are still just driving a lancer, so they end up selling it to get something with more prestige.
the reason i brought up the highlines is because I've taken a number of C43's, SL55's, SLK 500's, X5's, and other high line vehicles in on trade for an EVO. there must be reason behind this.

Last edited by dizzigital; Oct 20, 2004 at 10:21 PM. Reason: previous final sentence unneeded.
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Old Oct 20, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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that's pretty funny... looks like me when i was born.
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