Does the Evo IX have Drive by wire?
Originally Posted by D1_EVO8
maybe you dont see the big loop is because the pic is from a right hand drive EVO9... so the cable routes diffrently and doesnt need to "loop"
Originally Posted by jude
It does not have to cost 5,000 for a turbo kit for a VW. They can be had for half the price.
oh and this is my first post
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Originally Posted by SilverEvo8owner
Drive by wire sucks IMO, or at least for a car like this. I'd prefer to be completely in control. There's a lot of room for error on a drive by wire system, and the sensitivity and response just isn't like traditional setups..
If u like to be completely in control, why not don't have power steering ( which is also drive by wire ) and use some small Momo steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by pjohnson0301
DBW sucks ***. That's why I'm selling my 337 VW for an Evo as soon as I can. How much is a decent Evo turbo kit... ~$2,600? At a minimum it would cost me $5,000 to do a turbo upgrade for my car to make a maximum 300 whp. Why...because there's not one standalone or piggyback ECU out there that can control a throttle plate. We got all of 4 chip tuning companies out there that tune the Bosch Motronic and only one of those has a reliable turbo kit/chip tune combination. And none of them have user adjustable anything. Now that sucks.
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Originally Posted by jude
It does not have to cost 5,000 for a turbo kit for a VW. They can be had for half the price.
Originally Posted by BakZamGai
I believe the Motec M400, M600 and M800 ECUs have provisions for drive by wire applications.
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Originally Posted by pjohnson0301
Only the M800 can control "some" Bosch Motronics ECUed cars. It's also hugely expensive and it's totally custom...not plug-n-play.
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The M400, M600 and M800 all feature the Drive By Wire option so I don't quite understand why the M800 would be the only one that can control the ECUs you mentioned. As for the ability to control the DBW throttles, wouldn't it be a matter of calibration on the tuners part?
Plug-n-Play is dependent on market demand for such a product. If market demand for the VW cars is high enough, I'm sure aftermarket ECU manufacturers will jump into the market.
Plug-n-Play is dependent on market demand for such a product. If market demand for the VW cars is high enough, I'm sure aftermarket ECU manufacturers will jump into the market.
Originally Posted by pjohnson0301
Only the M800 can control "some" Bosch Motronics ECUed cars. It's also hugely expensive and it's totally custom...not plug-n-play.
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Originally Posted by astondg
That's strange because this page http://www.motec.com.au/oem.htm says that MOTEC make an M800 Plug 'n' Play ECU for the Evolution VIII and STI. They also made the same ECU's for previous Evolution's so I don't see why they wouldn't do the same for the IX.
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Originally Posted by BakZamGai
The M400, M600 and M800 all feature the Drive By Wire option so I don't quite understand why the M800 would be the only one that can control the ECUs you mentioned. As for the ability to control the DBW throttles, wouldn't it be a matter of calibration on the tuners part?
Plug-n-Play is dependent on market demand for such a product. If market demand for the VW cars is high enough, I'm sure aftermarket ECU manufacturers will jump into the market.
Plug-n-Play is dependent on market demand for such a product. If market demand for the VW cars is high enough, I'm sure aftermarket ECU manufacturers will jump into the market.
You must not realize how many cars VW/Audi/Seat put the 1.8T in. The demand is most definately there...but who can afford $2,000+ for engine management that's not PnP, has no "base maps" and no tuner support.
It says on the Motec website:
"MoTeC Drive By Wire is available for certain Bosch, Delphi and Nissan systems using our M800/880 series of Engine Management Systems"
Also, VW pays Bosch lots-o-money to change the Motronic code year to year making base maps impossible. Every time a new ECU code comes out it take the tuners sometimes months to produce a viable chip tune.
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Originally Posted by wrcevo
If u like to be completely in control, why not don't have power steering ( which is also drive by wire ) and use some small Momo steering wheel.
And yes with a Motec you can get rid of all the undesirable characteristics of an electronic throttle. But that comes at a huge investment. To get this absolutely right with the same or better drivability than stock you are going to lay out a pretty penny and then you probably won't pass emissions - and yes there's always an alternate map for more dollars to help you pass emissions.