With the new evo x having a clutchless tranny, will that make it harder to heavily mod the engine for 500+ whp? I heard that they will make a 6 speed manual too. That is what I would get. The automated 6 speed is like a automatic evo for people who don't want to drive a stick.

 

It is not clutchless, actually, there are 2 clutches for the SST tranny (DSG).

It all depends on what mitsubishi want from the tranny.

From what i gather, the DSG in the GTI can hold up to 350-400 WHP and the DSG in Veyron hold up too 1000 HP. So I would assume that the evo X tranny (SST) can hold at least 350-400 whp.

My speculation is that the new tranny should hold 400-550 WHP.

 

I believe its a five speed manual not a 6 speed.
And one reason people would pick the paddle shifters is because its quicker than manually shifting.

 

I would think that it’s quite obvious that it would be more of a problem in making really big HP figures on the SST transmission. Of course it is dimensioned to cope with a certain amount of power and it would most certainly be quite a bit more than the power the X will make. On the other hand it will be an issue of durability, if it will cope with stock power for a certain amount of time that time will of course decrease as the power increases. Then there will be a specific amount of power, or rather torque, which it will not handle anymore and probably just start to slip.

As the design of the SST is much more complicated and advanced compared to a traditional clutch, upgrading the SST will obviously be more of an issue. Hopefully there will be Ralliart products that will fit straight in as well as ECU’s that will be more performance oriented quite early, then in time I guess more and more tuner companies will get the hang of the SST and start to develop and offer upgrade parts.

To sum this up I would say that if you are aiming for serious power go for the manual but otherwise if you are more looking into “BPU” and ”stage 1” type of power the SST will probably be the way to go. At least in the beginning until we learn what the SST will cope with

 

im not sure i would want an auto??? who in their right mind that wants an evo woudl buy an auto?

 

It's not an auto.

You go tell the guys with BMW M3s and Ferrari F430's that they drive "automatics"

 

F1 uses it so it must suck. Keep with your ****box 5 speed and get walked when you miss the 1st to 2nd.

 

Does anyone know if the 6 speed transmission in the Evo X is the same one currently in use in the MR?

 

Roumours says that the manual will be 5-speed, not 6-speed. I guess we will see if that is true rather soon. And it might be based on earlier gearboxes but it just as well might not

 

I bet it was mentioned in the videos.

 

 

Like DefBringer said, it's not an automatic, it's a dual clutch manual with automatic shifting. This question has already been answered in the VW community. HPA claims the stock DSG tranny can handle 400 H.P. (seems optimistic compared to what VW says, but hey, they've probably pushed the limits on the stock clutches). For their turbo kits making more power than that, they offer upgraded clutches. I would expect that the Evo shops, like AMS, will likely be getting into that business for those customers who want huge horsepower numbers. If I end up getting this car, I'll probably shoot for about 400 H.P., and I'm hoping the stock clutches will hold up to that.

 

Ehh, did I ever say it was an automatic?? I'm well aware of what a dual clutch transmission is and how it works. And it’s not automatic at all as far as I know, you have to shift manually unless they put in an automatic mode as well?

Then, what question has been answered in the VW community? How much power the Mitsu SST transmission can handle? How on earth could the VW guys answer that question, how could they know what the SST can and cannot handle? As far as we know the SST has nothing in common with the DSG apart from the general type of transmission it is but no parts or anything else physical. So the conclusion of this is that until we get some cars out on the roads and into the tuning stages we have absolutely no idea of what the SST is really about, the rest now is purely speculations.

 

Sorry, I must not have read your post carefully enough. I re-read it, and I'm not sure what I was replying to! However, I suspect that replacing the dual clutch in SST will essentially be the same thing that VW R32 tuners are already doing, since they are essentially the same thing.

 

I hope there still is a clutch pedal tho... otherwise how would you launch it (get walked that way)? Cant launch it like an automatic, there isnt a tourqe converter... or do you just click it into gear and the computer takes care of the rest ?