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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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i hope those numbers are true. the sst would come in at 3388 lbs, not bad considering the mythical 3500 being thrown around. the gsr 5 spd would be 3344 and the RS 3124.

for reference the IX RS is 3219, IX is 3263 (3338 with moonroof), and the MR is 3285 for those of you too lazy to look it up. also the moonroof weighs 75 lbs from those numbers so a X with moonroof would be about 3463. kinda porky but still not too bad.

last thing of note to shut those X haters up is that the X RS would weigh LESS than the IX RS so if you really want performance the X wins in every category on paper. i think the X RS is gonna be super spartan. how else can you shed 220 lbs? no ac, no radio, etc. why would anyone buy that for a street car?

also the quoted 422 Nm is nothing new. it comes out to 311 ft-lbs exactly what was shown in the leaked video. but then again they also quote 280 ps which we all know is a corporate BS number.

imo the GSR SST is the way to go. all u people that complain about this car or that car being heavy and saving this many pounds etc. are crazy, stupid, or just plain hardcore. 99.9% of us will never use the weight savings. i'd rather be heavy and have AC, sat nav, 650 watt stereo, moonroof, etc than being a "hardcore racer"...

evo x FTW

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Weight:
RS= 3124 lbs.
GSR 5MT= 3344
GSR TC-SST= 3388

Engine:
276.25 hp
311.25 ft lbs.

/\ beat me to it /\

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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If those numbers are true, the GS-R 5 speed is only 81lbs more then the IX now, which isn't bad at all, especially given the fact that the Evo X is suppose to be A LOT safer then the IX as well.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jho0001
Got this from another forum...

Estimation arrival date nov-dec in Singapore
3 Models
RS 5MT
GSR 5MT
GSR TC-SST (twin clutch sst 6AT with padel shift)

Size.Weight
L - 4495mm
W - 1810mm
H - 1480mm
Wheel base - 2650mm
Front and rear - 1540mm
Weight
RS = 1420kg
GSR = 1520kg
GSR TC-SST = 1540kg

Engine
TYPE - 4B11MIVEC I/C/T/C
VALVE SYSTEM .No. of Cylinder - DOHC 16V INLINE 4 CYLINDER
Inside Diameter x operation - 86.0 x 86.0
Total Displacement - 1998cc
Compressure Ratio - 9 : 1
Max Power [NET] kW/rpm- 206[280PS]/6500
Max Torque (N.m/rpm - 422[43.0kg-fm]/3500
Fuel Supply Sytem - ECI-Multi (Electronic Control Injection)
Tank capacity
RS - 50
GSR/GST TC-SST - 55

Driving System
Steering - Rack and Pinion
Suspension
FRONT - MC PHERSON STRUT
REAR - MULTI LINK

Ventilated Disc Brake
RS -15" (front and rear)
GSR/GSR TC-SST - front 18" , rear 17"

Tire Size
RS - 205/60R16
GSR/GSR TC-SST - 245/40R18

DRIVELINE
RS/GSR 5MT
1st - 2.857
2nd - 1.950
3rd - 1.444
4th - 1.096
5th - 0.761
Reverse - 2
892
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.687

GSR 6 Speed Twin Clutch SST
1st - 3.655
2nd - 2.368
3rd - 1.754
4th - 1.322
5th - 1.008
6th - 0.775
Reverse - 4.011
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.062
If I did my math right...

206kw = 276HP
n.m = approx 311ft-lb torque

Actually sounds more like the leaked numbers from the leaked video posted here awhile ago, especially with the 276 number being similar to the gentleman's agreement limit in Japan makes me think that whoever posted those numbers are maybe 70% accurate at best (at least in comparison to what other markets such as the US will get)

Interested tho in the gear ratios if one was to guestimate that the X was to say be given 310, or 320hp or somethin. Like if we assume the weight is accurate, what would be calculated 0-60 times after projectin probable HP between 300-330

Also just to make sure my memory's intact... GSR equivilant in the US is the regular "unnamed" trim here correct? (i.e. the "IX" trim between the RS and MR trims).

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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a few more things of note.

Compression increased to 9.0 from 8.8 in the IX. how much if any will this affect max boost allowed stock?

and do those specs say 18" brakes for the GSR??? can't be right... it's gotta be 15" (380mm) right? either way it's bigger than the IX's 320mm brakes so the X wins again. i feel sorry for those who hate on the X cuz their IX is gonna be outdated and slow by the time the X comes out

and am i seeing this right? 205/60-16 tires for the RS??? WTF??? that's like for a civic no?

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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As always, I tink we should wait for the official specs.

Points of note:

18" + 17" rotors on an 18" rim on the GSR?
15" rotors on a 16" rim on the RS?

Hell, a 16" rim on the RS?

205s on the RS?


Some things here aren't quite jiving... This really smacks of Speculation. What's the source?

But if these stats are true (with allowance for typos) then it looks like the RS will be only for those that plan to convert it to a track car..
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jho0001
Got this from another forum...

Estimation arrival date nov-dec in Singapore
3 Models
RS 5MT
GSR 5MT
GSR TC-SST (twin clutch sst 6AT with padel shift)

Size.Weight
L - 4495mm
W - 1810mm
H - 1480mm
Wheel base - 2650mm
Front and rear - 1540mm
Weight
RS = 1420kg
GSR = 1520kg
GSR TC-SST = 1540kg

Engine
TYPE - 4B11MIVEC I/C/T/C
VALVE SYSTEM .No. of Cylinder - DOHC 16V INLINE 4 CYLINDER
Inside Diameter x operation - 86.0 x 86.0
Total Displacement - 1998cc
Compressure Ratio - 9 : 1
Max Power [NET] kW/rpm- 206[280PS]/6500
Max Torque (N.m/rpm - 422[43.0kg-fm]/3500
Fuel Supply Sytem - ECI-Multi (Electronic Control Injection)
Tank capacity
RS - 50
GSR/GST TC-SST - 55

Driving System
Steering - Rack and Pinion
Suspension
FRONT - MC PHERSON STRUT
REAR - MULTI LINK

Ventilated Disc Brake
RS -15" (front and rear)
GSR/GSR TC-SST - front 18" , rear 17"

Tire Size
RS - 205/60R16
GSR/GSR TC-SST - 245/40R18

DRIVELINE
RS/GSR 5MT
1st - 2.857
2nd - 1.950
3rd - 1.444
4th - 1.096
5th - 0.761
Reverse - 2
892
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.687

GSR 6 Speed Twin Clutch SST
1st - 3.655
2nd - 2.368
3rd - 1.754
4th - 1.322
5th - 1.008
6th - 0.775
Reverse - 4.011
Final Recuced change gear ratio - 4.062
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/sho...8&postcount=30
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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now the only thing i need to decide on is whether to get the GSR 5 MT or the GSR SST...

it's going to be tough.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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it is going to be difficult for me to decide, too ...
GSR or wait for MR,
5 MT or 6 MT(MR?) or SST,
buy it right away or wait for price to stablise and bugs to work out...
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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So there isn't going to be a top-of-the-line MR version anymore????
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Evozster
So there isn't going to be a top-of-the-line MR version anymore????
They will probably wait a few years to release the MR, just like they did when the evo first came to the states.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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I hope those numbers are under rated!
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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*eidt* nvm!

I hope it will be tuned differently fro the US market.

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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nongan
buy it right away or wait for price to stablise and bugs to work out...
oh yeah, that's another thing to keep in mind. But I need a car soon. I've been waiting patiently and I will wait out another 5 or 6 months.

hope the bug issues will be non-existent
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Old Aug 18, 2007 | 01:07 AM
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