evo ix trap 105 stock

evo x trap 102 stock



im not getting the more power? thats 30-35whp less according to this...

 

you guys are killing me!

http://www.mitsubishi-cars.co.uk/evo...sp?strCar1=QF2

enjoy the link while your at it! these are the real deal that are sold as stock!

so, if someone ask you about the new evo x, sure it is nice and comfy but it is heavy and slower than the older versions. that is the reason they have the US spec version to compare

 

Why do car manufactures when they revise a car chassis and make it stiffer they tend to install a softer suspension?

 

So us americans should be happy then since its faster than our US IX's right?
Who gives a **** about the JDM and UK evo's, we dont get those cars. so the fact that the X is faster than the IX stock is a good thing no?

 

arguing about which country gets the fastest stock car is silly since most evo's get modded. We have some very fast evo's here in the states that can compete with cars in the uk and japan. In the uk you can buy a modded car new called the fq versions but at the price they have to pay we usa folk would ***** like drama queens about the cost. The x does not seem to have a straight line advantage over the previous models but the handling does seem to be improved making it a better handling car stock. For the ultimate performance it is still unknown where the x will be.

 

like I said apples and oranges, they were comparing it to the US evo IX vs the X. imported evo IX have the AYC already. the only way they showed how it works was trying it in the snow handling because if it was a tarmac there would be no difference. if you ever tried the link, there are fq versions and there is the MR version which is different from our MR here in the US. I am not bashing the evo x because for what its worth, it has better seats, interior, better technology, etc. but in terms of faster around the track, straights, etc. you be the judge that it really isn't.

 

cornering.

 

soft =/= slow. best example I can think of. the E36 was setup pretty soft, but that was a blazing fast car on a road course and Car & Driver (I think!) named it the best handling car back in the late 1990s (against Ferrari/Porsche/etc)

soft certainly can be slow, but soft can also be composed. and to anyone who has ever done a track day or auto-x, what is faster, composed or frantic/wild?

 

Man that is old news.. it was discussed in many magazines..!!

And comparing it to other markets its fair. The truth about this X is slowly coming out and hype being SHOT DOWN..

Yes the X laps faster and aside from from the weights, lengths, etc etc.. the technology in it is the main reason.. I bet you turn off 2 of those new add ons and it will not out lap a IX by 2 secs.. in fact i got my money its 3 secs slower..

And for those who say acceleration is not IMPORTANT.. bull crap.. 80% of evo owners buy the evo for its acceleration.. the vast majority drag race it ONLY.. the rest go ahead and circuit race it, auto-x etc etc and even leave them stock..so for the new X not to deliver an improvement in this area to the American market is a FLAW

 

you guys are also forgetting about the redistribution of weight!!

turbo/manifold are no longer in the nose, they are towards the center and lower end of the car. . .the battery is in the trunk, so is the washer resevoir. . .

all that weight redistribution AND S-AWC will give AMAZING track results. . .

I was thinking this morning as I ripped an M3 a new one that the VIII and IX values will go through the roof for the garden-variety drag-racing junkie looking for a quick awd car. . .

I'd definitely look at the X or XI as a next car in a few years when kids are on the way, hell, the fact my fiancee likes the MR firms up the fact the Evo is soft (she HATES my VIII!!)

 

So the chassis is heavier and dosent even help the evo x lap any faster than a evo IX chassi. So if anything the evo x will have a stiffer ride than evo ix. And if you want the evo X to lap a track as fast as possible youll probably have to use stiffer suspension on the evo x then you would have to use on a evo ix that would be trying to lap the same track as the evo x, also as fast as possible, so the evo x will have more agressive weight transfers, right?

 

Only in America. The rest of the world (who have had the car a lot longer than us) use it for what it was designed for, rally/road racing. The Evo was not, is not, and never will be designed for drag racing period. Plus, do you really think people are going to drive an X and say, "yup, it's 0.5 sec slower than a stock IX"

 

I don't think the hype is going down at all.
And the Evo is not created for drag racing. It never was. The car was meant for the tracks or the circuit. That was what it was for orginally.
And on that note, that was one of the concentrations on the engineering.
You are right, accleration is important, but so is overall handling. What you lack in horsepower, you make up in handling.
It is somewhat disappointing that the car didnt get more hp but that can be fixed.
Improving a cars overall structure and suspension takes more work.

Why would you take off the new add ons, when that is one of the reasons why the car has evolved?
Alot of people look for the next step up in engineering and tech and overall construction.

And it might be fair to compare the car to other country's specs but it's also unnecessary for the ones that are coming to the US. Unless your a person who buys out of country spec vehicles.

 

lol this thread is funny. people doubting the evo x's handling, its been praised in every single review and pulls .97g on a 200ft skidpad, thats greater than a c6z06 and people are still *****ing. Putting 10mm wider tires on a evo ix isnt going to make it pull .97g all of a sudden. motortrend printed the evo ix as having a .92g 200ft skidpad performance.

 

Not sure about that... but dont the JDM IXs (not sure about VII and VIII) offer SAYC? I am pretty sure they do and that they have an added grip advantage over USDM Evos... plus we have heavy front and rear low-speed crash beams added witha combined 40+ lbs, so ours are slightly heavier. The X has wider tires, more advanced AWD system, wider track, etc... lets see if HKS can beat their time attack record with a X before anybody decides its really faster or more capable