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Old Oct 13, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by madfast

obviously the real test would be JDM IX vs JDM X, but that hasn't happened yet. HOWEVER the IX proponents have insisted based on pure conjecture that the JDM IX is faster than the X. pure unadulterated BS!!!

i call it like i see it. people will simply make things up to prove how "bad" the evo X is...
where can you find UK and JDM IX but in their domestic area. even UK don't have the US iteration of evo's. all evo sold there are labeled fq after the original evolution VIII fq400. so really there is no 289 hp evo IX in the UK but the fq series with at least 320 hp and if you look at their MR a whooping 366 hp.


http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...umentid=820668
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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We have all been driving neutered non/AYC Evo's for 4 years now and all the sudden everyone is wondering what AYC is causing the .97g beatdown...... You can get one from a world CT9A Evo and install it on your car and have a X setup...All the money I see dumped into CF canards/ lip spoilers & other flash interior/exterior parts I am surprised no-one has done the swap yet from a wrecked UK or Jdm car. You have to change the fluid on it every 15k w/ ATF. I remember talking to Shiv about it in '05 he was like yhea it can be done.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:16 AM
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the future 10 0000 rpm rev limit. And when you strip the car down to the same level for the previus ones ,less weight compere the old ones.
imagine your evo same whp same everithing ,BUT safe 10 000 rpm rev limiter + little less weight.
AND add the new stuff wich is come with the X .
that is what going to happen in the near future.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chrsevx
What do you mean by cornering? Please explain.
when you stiff the chassy up ,common problem is the tripod mode when you cornering. But the best thing is leave the tires on the ground. Another thing is when its too stiff, the car it will slide instead of turning in. So one option is,use a softer set up.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
when you stiff the chassy up ,common problem is the tripod mode when you cornering. But the best thing is leave the tires on the ground. Another thing is when its too stiff, the car it will slide instead of turning in. So one option is,use a softer set up.
/\ perfect! someone has spent some time setting up a track car. stiff can equal fast, but not always. suspension geometry is a very complex problem.

sometime stop by a tuner shop and ask them what is more difficult. adding big power to a car for drag racing, or setting up the suspension so it hooks cleanly and predictibly? then, go to a road racing shop, and ask them the same questions. Handling is such a complex art, and quite frankly most people need driver aids to be fast, heck - look at F1 - those cars are technical marvels and are piloted by the best drivers on the planet.

I am 99% done building a kit car for trackdays & such. building a 487 HP V8 took some time, and I have a little carb tuning left, but 1 60 minute dyno session and I will be finished. but, I am expecting to spend all of next summer's track & auto cross dates concentrating on getting the suspension setup so that the car handles in a predictible manor, being suprised on a track at 100 mph isn't a good thing for me (a medium novice driver in a 2400 lb/487 hp car).

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Only in America. The rest of the world (who have had the car a lot longer than us) use it for what it was designed for, rally/road racing. The Evo was not, is not, and never will be designed for drag racing period. Plus, do you really think people are going to drive an X and say, "yup, it's 0.5 sec slower than a stock IX"
Perfectly stated.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by threepointsix
We have all been driving neutered non/AYC Evo's for 4 years now and all the sudden everyone is wondering what AYC is causing the .97g beatdown...... You can get one from a world CT9A Evo and install it on your car and have a X setup...All the money I see dumped into CF canards/ lip spoilers & other flash interior/exterior parts I am surprised no-one has done the swap yet from a wrecked UK or Jdm car. You have to change the fluid on it every 15k w/ ATF. I remember talking to Shiv about it in '05 he was like yhea it can be done.
i thought that the american evos have a bigger gas tank than the jdm ones, and that is one reason they took off the ayc, bc the bigger tank takes the space of it
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
when you stiff the chassy up ,common problem is the tripod mode when you cornering. But the best thing is leave the tires on the ground. Another thing is when its too stiff, the car it will slide instead of turning in. So one option is,use a softer set up.
Makes sense. If tripoding bothers you. I just know that the more aggressive suspension setup will make the evo handle better.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mikevoSE
Only in America. The rest of the world (who have had the car a lot longer than us) use it for what it was designed for, rally/road racing. The Evo was not, is not, and never will be designed for drag racing period. Plus, do you really think people are going to drive an X and say, "yup, it's 0.5 sec slower than a stock IX"
Not entirely true. Here in Singapore (we've had the car since the first generation, all JDM versions), although road racing (Sepang F1 circuit and Johore circuit) is by far more popular, drag racing is not completely ignored. There are sprint competitions where Evos hold many records.

Also, people do play around on the streets (I don't condone it, but it happens). And lots of people love to go up to Malaysia to drive on the wide and straight North-South highway flat out (speeds in excess of 240 km/hr) for long stretches. Lots of high speed rough-housing there too.

Straight line grunt is important to most Evo owners. If handling were the only consideration, I suspect many would be happier with Lotus Elises.
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by EzeE1o
i thought that the american evos have a bigger gas tank than the jdm ones, and that is one reason they took off the ayc, bc the bigger tank takes the space of it
The AYC unit is replaced on the US models with an evap canister for emissions purposes. Taking that unit out is an even bigger law foul than a catalytic converter.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Turb0flat4
Not entirely true. Here in Singapore (we've had the car since the first generation, all JDM versions), although road racing (Sepang F1 circuit and Johore circuit) is by far more popular, drag racing is not completely ignored. There are sprint competitions where Evos hold many records.

Also, people do play around on the streets (I don't condone it, but it happens). And lots of people love to go up to Malaysia to drive on the wide and straight North-South highway flat out (speeds in excess of 240 km/hr) for long stretches. Lots of high speed rough-housing there too.

Straight line grunt is important to most Evo owners. If handling were the only consideration, I suspect many would be happier with Lotus Elises.
Well, understood, but if you have people who are mostly concerned on the straight line, they could get better results with a different car then to deal with a car who's handling solely shines on rough terrain.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 04:34 AM
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Turb0flat4
Not entirely true. Here in Singapore (we've had the car since the first generation, all JDM versions), although road racing (Sepang F1 circuit and Johore circuit) is by far more popular, drag racing is not completely ignored. There are sprint competitions where Evos hold many records.

Also, people do play around on the streets (I don't condone it, but it happens). And lots of people love to go up to Malaysia to drive on the wide and straight North-South highway flat out (speeds in excess of 240 km/hr) for long stretches. Lots of high speed rough-housing there too.

Straight line grunt is important to most Evo owners. If handling were the only consideration, I suspect many would be happier with Lotus Elises.
If lotus elise was in the same price range as an evo and had 4 doors I would not be talking about evos right now.
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Old Oct 15, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by sblvro
so really there is no 289 hp evo IX in the UK but the fq series with at least 320 hp and if you look at their MR a whooping 366 hp.


http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...umentid=820668

There is no 289 hp IX in the US either. The FQ 300 IX in the UK makes the same power as the US IX. The UK realized that the IX were under rated for power and re-rated it.
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Old Oct 16, 2007 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
when you stiff the chassy up ,common problem is the tripod mode when you cornering. But the best thing is leave the tires on the ground. Another thing is when its too stiff, the car it will slide instead of turning in. So one option is,use a softer set up.
So the only benefit to having a stiffer chassi would be safety? Just trying to get an idea as to why the evo x would have a stiffer chassi.
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