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HKS Twin Power

Old Apr 13, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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HKS Twin Power

Has anybody tried HKS Twin Power, my Utec started to be very sensetive to knock after installing it?
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 05:10 AM
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Wow, thats the first I've heard anything like that. I'd be interested in hearing more about this one.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:17 AM
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we have a few customers who have installed it and posted (I believe), though I don't think anyone is using it with a UTEC
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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It is also curious to me, as I thouht that Twin Power should prevent knocking. What could be the explanation?
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Twin power doesn't do anything to prevent knock. All it does is increase the intensity of the spark. I have no idea why causes the car to be more sensitive to knock. That's a new one to me. Check installation i guess.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 06:02 AM
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a better spark can and does reduce knock -

first thing to check is the wiring for the Twin Power - make sure everything is well connected

from there, do a datalog in the UTEC and post your results
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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It could be the better combustion is revealing a map that has too much timing.. If you were quenching you combustion or getting late combustion due to poor quality spark then it makes sense.. It could also mean that your running leaner than before due to more complete combustion leaving less "Unburned" fuel (and richer O2 reading)
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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I would think that after adding any item that changes the nature of the combustion cycle that I full re-tune would be in order. I doubt that the UTEC has become more sensitive to knock. The reality is that you are actually experiencing more knock
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Old Apr 18, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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Of course I have changed fuel map based on Stage II map. But some times the knock appearing in really unexpected cases.
Here are my logs.
3rd gear
Code:
 3153 +27.0  465  48  10	00   +18.4   17.8 +13.6  +4.7 ECU.	390  13.23
 2934 +27.0  459  76  10	00   +16.2   17.8 +14.3  +1.9  75.00  517  12.92
 2817 +27.0  421  98  10	00   +13.6   16.3 +14.6  +1.1  75.00  196  12.37
 2868 +27.0  396  99  10	00   +12.5   16.4 +14.2  +1.4  75.00  781  11.96
 2939 +27.0  412 100  10	00   +10.3   18.4 +13.6  +1.9  75.00  279  12.05
 3118 +27.0  466 100  10	00   +12.5   19.1 +13.2  +2.9  75.00  728  12.00
 3150 +26.8  483 100  10	00   +11.4   21.0 +13.0  +3.8  75.00  661  11.92
 3277 +26.8  551 100  10	00   +11.4   21.6 +12.6  +5.2  75.00  526  12.00
 3336 +26.8  619 100  10	00	+9.5   23.4 +12.4  +6.0  75.00  462  12.05
 3486 +26.8  663 100  10	00	+7.6   25.8 +12.1  +6.8  75.00  825  11.98
 3546 +26.8  695 100  10	00	+6.5   29.0 +12.0  +6.6  75.00  555  12.00
 3671 +27.0  746 100  10	00	+5.5   37.1 +12.2  +5.6  75.00 1269  11.93
 3800 +26.8  982 100  10	00	+5.6   40.1 +12.4  +3.5  75.00 1336  11.53
 3949 +26.8  963 100  20	00	+5.6   44.1 +10.8  +2.0  75.00 1213  11.24
 4100 +26.6 1096 100  30	00	+4.6   53.7 +10.1  +0.0  75.00  936  11.23
 4317 +26.8 1141 100  30	00	+4.7   49.8 +10.2  -2.2  75.00  798  11.06
 4480 +26.8  814 100  40	00	+6.7   42.1  +8.7  -5.3  75.00 1358  11.02
 4578 +26.8 1096 100  40	00	+6.9   57.3  +8.5  -4.6  75.00 1329  11.30
 4768 +26.6 1533 100  40	00	+9.8   62.1  +8.7  -5.5  75.00 1082  11.45
 4982 +26.1 1466 100  40	00	+9.8   60.3  +7.9  -7.4  75.00  915  11.48
 5089 +26.3 1237 100  50	00	+8.7   58.4  +7.7  -7.0  75.00 1497  11.42
 5232 +25.9 1474 100  50	00	+8.8   62.6  +8.2  -7.5  75.00  984  11.28
 5428 +26.3 1479 100  60	00	+9.0   67.5  +8.6  -7.5  75.00 1388  11.23
 5546 +26.6 1587 100  60	00	+8.8   71.0  +9.7  -7.5  75.00 1666  11.08
 5727 +26.6 1557 100  60	00   +11.2   75.2 +11.7  -7.1  75.00 1515  11.01
 5920 +26.8 1661 100  70	00   +12.2   80.9 +11.9  -7.3  75.00 1612  10.96
 6093 +26.6 1666 100  70	00   +12.0   78.0 +12.3  -6.9  75.00 1436  10.96
 6242 +26.6 1683 100  80	00   +12.8   78.4 +13.2  -5.1  75.00 1533  10.99
 6385 +26.6 1736 100  80	00   +14.0   79.8 +14.2  -5.6  75.00 1633  11.05
 6485 +26.8 1742 100  80	00   +15.4   81.4 +15.0  -5.0  75.00 1552  11.08
 6640 +26.8 1766 100  80	00   +17.3   83.9 +15.9  -5.0  75.00 1602  11.06
 6775 +27.0 1773 100  80	00   +16.3   84.7 +16.8  -5.0  75.00 1811  11.05
 6930 +27.0 1792 100  90	00   +18.4   84.3 +17.2  -5.0  75.00 1623  11.01
 7062 +26.8 1824 100  90	00   +18.6   85.3 +17.8  -5.0  75.00 1381  11.01
 7246 +27.0 1851 100  90	00   +18.6   85.5 +18.1  -5.0  75.00 1785  10.96
 7326 +26.8 1858 100  90	00   +19.6   86.3 +18.5  -5.0  75.00 1773  10.96
 7440 +26.8 1066  75  90	00   +19.7   19.7 +18.5  -5.0  75.00  592  11.01
4th gear
Code:
 2750 +27.4  349  62  10	00   +13.5   14.7 +14.6  +1.9  75.00  478  12.14
 2841 +27.2  398  82  10	00   +13.4   16.8 +14.2  +1.4  75.00  269  11.45
 2824 +27.2  391  99  10	00   +12.4   16.5 +14.2  +1.5  75.00  239  11.58
 2936 +27.0  414 100  10	00   +13.4   17.3 +14.0  +1.5  75.00  620  11.73
 2923 +26.8  406 100  10	00   +12.3   17.5 +13.8  +1.8  75.00  411  11.87
 2962 +27.0  463 100  10	00   +11.4   19.2 +13.7  +4.7  75.00  433  11.98
 3005 +27.2  488 100  10	00   +10.7   19.1 +13.5  +2.3  75.00  433  11.98
 3046 +27.2  437 100  10	00	+9.2   19.4 +13.3  +2.6  75.00  335  11.87
 3089 +27.2  500 100  10	00	+9.2   20.3 +13.2  +3.5  75.00  468  11.81
 3195 +27.0  552 100  10	00	+9.2   21.3 +12.9  +4.4  75.00  457  11.87
 3192 +27.0  521 100  10	00	+9.3   22.0 +12.8  +4.1  75.00  401  11.98
 3290 +26.8  629 100  10	00	+8.2   23.8 +12.5  +5.4  75.00  670  12.06
 3353 +27.0  648 100  10	00	+7.6   25.1 +12.4  +5.8  75.00  618  11.98
 3363 +26.8  629 100  10	00	+7.6   27.7 +12.3  +6.0  75.00  714  11.93
 3425 +26.8  703 100  10	00	+7.6   29.0 +12.2  +6.4  75.00  514  12.05
 3505 +27.0  753 100  10	00	+6.6   35.7 +12.0  +7.0  75.00 1041  12.06
 3572 +26.8  811 100  10	00	+4.4   44.1 +12.0  +6.4  75.00  737  11.87
 3663 +26.8  900 100  20	00	+3.2   45.1  +9.7  +5.4  75.00 1445  11.52
 3736 +26.6  968 100  20	00	+2.7   45.9  +9.7  +2.3  75.00 1054  11.14
 3813 +26.3 1012 100  30	00	+4.1   45.0  +9.0  +3.8  75.00 1077  10.89
 3926 +26.6 1082 100  30	00	+4.5   53.9  +9.5  +2.6  75.00 1288  10.78
 3982 +26.8 1079 100  30	00	+6.7   52.7 +10.1  +2.0  75.00  922  10.93
 4079 +26.8 1024 100  30	00	+5.5   52.5 +10.1  -0.4  75.00 1315  11.01
 4203 +26.8  957 100  40	00	+6.6   42.7  +9.1  -0.4  75.00  836  10.95
 4246 +26.6 1165 100  30	00	+8.4   41.8 +10.1  -2.0  75.00 1388  11.01
 4426 +26.8 1488 100  30	00	+8.5   43.5 +10.1  -3.2  75.00  957  11.11
 4391 +26.6 1420 100  30	00	+8.6   58.0  +9.8  -3.4  75.00  877  11.23
 4486 +26.3  938 100  40	00	+5.8   55.5  +8.5  -4.3  75.00 1533  11.27
 4578 +26.1  924 100  40	00	+5.6   42.2  +8.5  -4.6  75.00 1329  11.20
 4655 +26.1 1497 100  40	00	+8.7   69.2  +8.6  -4.7  75.00 1033  11.14
 4796 +26.3 1547 100  50	00	+7.9   60.3  +7.1  -6.4  75.00 1037  11.14
 4866 +26.8 1322 100  50	00	+7.8   44.4  +7.2  -5.8  75.00 1213  11.06
 4894 +27.0 1068 100  40	00	+8.7   53.9  +8.1  -6.3  75.00 1453  11.08
 4982 +26.8 1222 100  50	00	+8.0   58.0  +7.4  -6.6  75.00 1488  11.06
 5027 +26.6 1358 100  50	00	+8.8   63.2  +7.6  -6.7  75.00  925  11.01
 5120 +26.3 1432 100  50	00	+8.8   62.0  +7.9  -7.2  75.00 1068  11.01
 5241 +26.6 1392 100  60	00	+8.8   64.9  +8.0  -7.5  75.00 1131  11.02
 5350 +26.8 1424 100  60	00	+9.0   61.9  +8.2  -7.5  75.00 1358  11.05
 5428 +26.8 1388 100  60	00   +10.0   64.2  +8.4  -7.5  75.00 1470  11.06
 5509 +27.0 1466 100  60	00	+8.9   68.8  +8.6  -7.5  75.00 1396  11.14
 5537 +26.8 1470 100  60	00   +10.1   70.2  +9.1  -7.5  75.00 1533  11.12
 5649 +27.0 1557 100  70	00   +10.0   69.4 +10.0  -7.5  75.00 1412  11.02
 5678 +27.0 1529 100  70	00   +11.1   72.3 +10.8  -7.5  75.00 1724  11.06
 5727 +27.0 1623 100  70	00   +11.2   72.8 +11.4  -7.5  75.00 1420  11.11
 5817 +27.0 1587 100  70	00   +12.2   73.2 +11.8  -7.4  75.00 1666  11.11
 5910 +27.0 1592 100  70	00   +12.1   74.7 +12.0  -7.1  75.00 1488  11.08
 5984 +26.8 1628 100  70	00   +12.3   74.3 +12.1  -6.1  75.00 1655  11.11
 6049 +26.6 1661 100  70	00   +12.1   76.2 +12.3  -6.5  75.00 1602  11.20
 6105 +26.6 1661 100  80	00   +12.5   74.4 +12.8  -6.5  75.00 1623  11.24
 6195 +26.6 1677 100  80	00   +12.6   75.8 +13.4  -6.0  75.00 1479  11.27
 6265 +26.8 1677 100  80	00   +14.1   77.1 +13.8  -5.6  75.00 1785  11.24
 6337 +26.8 1689 100  80	00   +14.1   77.4 +14.2  -5.4  75.00 1515  11.18
 6410 +26.8 1712 100  80	00   +15.3   78.8 +14.4  -5.0  75.00 1724  11.14
 6472 +26.6 1672 100  80	00   +15.4   80.7 +14.7  -5.0  75.00 1552  11.14
 6613 +26.6 1748 100  80	00   +15.5   81.3 +15.3  -5.0  75.00 1773  11.11
 6653 +27.0 1748 100  80	00   +16.1   82.1 +15.6  -5.0  75.00 1677  11.05
 6706 +27.0 1700 100  80	00   +16.4   81.8 +16.2  -5.0  75.00 1655  11.05
 6734 +27.2 1805 100  80	00   +16.2   85.2 +16.4  -5.0  75.00 1689  11.08
 6887 +27.0 1766 100  90	00   +17.3   82.5 +16.9  -5.0  75.00 1736  11.08
 6930 +26.6 1712 100  90	00   +18.4   84.6 +17.1  -5.0  75.00 1748  11.06
 7017 +26.3 1754 100  80	00   +17.9   82.3 +17.4  -5.0  75.00 1655  11.05
 7077 +26.6 1805 100  80	00   +17.6   83.4 +17.6  -5.0  75.00 1644  11.05
 7122 +26.3 1766 100  90	01   +18.2   83.2 +17.7  -5.0  75.00 1798  11.05
 7122 +26.8 1824 100  90	01   +18.0   83.7 +17.9  -5.0  75.00 1689  11.05
 7326 +26.8  310   1  00	00   +38.9   16.9 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.	275  11.12
 7092 +26.6  273   1  00	00   +38.9   23.4 ECU.   +0.0 ECU.	446  11.68
And I do not have an explanation of knock at the end of run?
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