I second the speed density! Get rid of the finicky MAS!

 

I don't think speed density is going to happen right now. The only problem is that the UTEC does not control everything all the time. I only controls after 35% TPS(unless you change it) I would like to have it just control ALL fuel all timing and all boost and not have to try and tune for cross over points (even is this left the MAF there) Then after they do that they sould be able to go to speed density.

I am sure they are working very hard on new things. The new DTEC-FC is a pretty dope and if I ever need just a pull up pull down fuel controller That would be the one to get.

They also have the WRX and STI, UTECs to deal with too. Not to even mention the tuners as well.

I would like a revision to the Tuner to make it easier to find the UTEC when doing through the tuner to the UTEC. I have to play around turning the car off then on and starting hyper terminal over again etc... It would be nice if the could get that bug out.

Props to TurboXS on making some great products. It is not often you find a company that stands behind there product like they do.

Ben

 

you make really good points either way im really happy with the utec and updates are just a bonus!

 

I don't think you'll be seeing a speed density setup, I think they made a passing comment about using an alternative MAF sensor, which for several reasons, makes more sense to me. HOWEVER, since they haven't really confirmed anything like that, its speculation.

Your issue is unique, I have had my tunerpro hooked up since they became available, but I never had the problem your describing.

 

Sorry for taking so long with the reply guys. Not sure if I should be saying anything or not but they didnt say I couldnt. They do have somthing in the works and from what I have seen and told it should be out very soon. I didnt get all the details but it seems to be a large MAS with no honeycomb. Nathan did show me the new MAS and said they already had some software to run it. The MAS looks to be 3" - 4"ish. Sorry I didnt get more info but it was late and everyone just wanted to go home. Aleast you can rest better knowing that something is in the works and seems like it will be out soon.

 

^^ That's awesome news, if that gets released I gotta order me a UTEC :P

 

I thought it was too but then i tuned a STI with a UTEC and tuner lite and it did the same thing. To get around it you just need to do everything in a specific order. It is not hard but it can get frustrating when you are paying for dynotime and waste 8-10 minutes trying to get into the UTEC.

Ben

 

what does this mean? Still using a mass air flow...still have to run recirc bov.....

 

I use a blowthrough MAF sensor.. I can run VTA if I needed to.. I can speculate that you'll see a drawthrough maf, and a blowthrough setup (Upper intercooler pipe with maf integratd) If the sensor you saw had a small rectangular block with a 4 or 5 pin connector, its a similar unit to what I've been working with and it works GREAT, I have two versions of it, one integrated into an upper intercooler pipe and another in its own tube which is just over 3", both were calibrated and are capable of functioning with well over 600hp.

It could be using a GM unit, my concern with that unit is its a little fragile, but it does have an integrated thermasistor which makes getting AIT a little easier, the Ford sensor uses an external sensor, but its placed in the intake tube so your getting air temp before its compressed.

I hope they contact me to test out the new firmware and wiring harness kit to test out something if it works.. Since I've already been running a blowthrough setup reliably for over a year and I can swap around components in minutes..

To answer ManOfaith's question, if this is a drawthrough MAF (Basically a replacement to put into the stock location) then you will have to continue to recirculate, however these MAF sensors are less sensitive to the disruptions you'd get with intake mods and other types of issues. If its a blowthrough setup, your looking at it being installed in your upper intercooler pipe, so its not exactly a bolt-in swap and will likely cost a little more than a drawthrough unit. (again purely speculation but I'm really hoping its a hitachi/Ford style MAF or at least their new software can allow for different types of MAF alternatives and you can calibrate it yourself)

 

It is a blowthrough unit and he pulled it out of an A/C Delco box so I guess its a GM unit. Looks kinda like one from a vett.

 

Malibu- from what you described about the blowthru that would work great for me. I would love to free up some more power with any intake I wanted and run a vta (just for fun).

So do you have to do anything else other than the sensor installed in a pipe. I can make or have made just about anything. If its just running a new sensor I might be up for what you did malibu. I assume my tune would be all out of whach though.....

 

hopefully the software is configurable enough to use something other than the Delco/GM sensor, the GM sensor has been troublesome for me in a blowthrough configuration in the past..