Notices
General Engine Management / Tuning Forum Discuss general EMS tuning concepts that do not pertain to a specfic brand or product.

Element Tuning/ Hydra EMS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 5, 2005 | 10:02 PM
  #1  
Mystery's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
From: Mooresville NC / Scottsdale AZ
Element Tuning/ Hydra EMS

Was browsing some other sites, and the Hydra EMS seems to be a popular choice.
Anyone running the unit yet?

http://www.elementtuning.com/main.htm
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 01:41 AM
  #2  
asidbyrne's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 71
Likes: 0
From: Singapore
Hydra EMS

Yes I currently run the Hydra on my Evo.
It drives like stock.
For the price vs function, its haqrd to beat.

But then any ecu is only as good as the tuner.......
Reply
Old Jul 6, 2005 | 05:34 AM
  #3  
nothere's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 1
From: Bellevue. WA
it sounds like there may be a number of hydra's out there now. It would be nice if everyone with one posted.

I've got one too. it'll do about anything you want it to.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:05 AM
  #4  
ill born's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Anyone know if I could use the analog output from an Innovate LM-1 wideband in place of the Hydra's WB O2 sensor?
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 04:56 PM
  #5  
nothere's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 1
From: Bellevue. WA
I don't think you can or would want to. from what I have seen the o2 sensor is intergraded in the software.
The read out in the hydra log is so nice, it is well worth the cost.
send the question direct to element
http://www.elementtuning.com/main.htm
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 07:10 PM
  #6  
Precision Dyno's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
I've tuned an Element on a Subaru . It was very nice and the car ran really "stock"
Very High quality internals. Good unit.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 07:29 PM
  #7  
nothere's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 1
From: Bellevue. WA
btw its a L2H2 sensor on the hydra, I think the inovate is a different series.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 10:40 PM
  #8  
BadazzCR's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 921
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta, Georgia
Tuned a few hydra's.. they are great systems once tuned. But man does the interface need a bit of work. They way its currently setup it takes alot longer to tune than other more popular systems.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:55 AM
  #9  
rlazer5000's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 653
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
I found the Hydra EMS for sale at JSC Speed. It looked really nice and the price is hard to beat compared to the AEM EMS. Anyone with this setup give us some pros and cons on the system? I really want to get rid of the stock MAF as it's so freakin' restrictive and it really hates my mods! Any help is really appreciated!
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:01 AM
  #10  
MalibuJack's Avatar
EvoM Guru
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,572
Likes: 14
From: Royse City, TX
I actually was seriously considering the Hydra over everything else at one point.. The two issues for me were the typical OBD-II problem I have up here in NY with inspection, and it uses speed density on the Evo version, therefore removing the MAF..

Otherwise I've heard only good things about it from everyone who's used it, other than the UI hehe.. Its also one of the few units that can do closed loop operation at WOT with a wideband.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:11 PM
  #11  
Precision Dyno's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by MalibuJack
I actually was seriously considering the Hydra over everything else at one point.. The two issues for me were the typical OBD-II problem I have up here in NY with inspection, and it uses speed density on the Evo version, therefore removing the MAF..

Otherwise I've heard only good things about it from everyone who's used it, other than the UI hehe.. Its also one of the few units that can do closed loop operation at WOT with a wideband.
The AEM also does closed loop feedback correction at WOT.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:13 PM
  #12  
Precision Dyno's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by rlazer5000
I found the Hydra EMS for sale at JSC Speed. It looked really nice and the price is hard to beat compared to the AEM EMS. Anyone with this setup give us some pros and cons on the system? I really want to get rid of the stock MAF as it's so freakin' restrictive and it really hates my mods! Any help is really appreciated!
What were you quoted for the AEM?
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:48 PM
  #13  
nothere's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,680
Likes: 1
From: Bellevue. WA
I had Phil tune the car shortly after the hydra install, since then I have added cams, and a WR, and solenoid. I think the hydra is as neat as it bugs butt. As far as it vrs. another can't help you, only seen this one.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:22 PM
  #14  
rlazer5000's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 653
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted by Precision Dyno
What were you quoted for the AEM?
I actually was never quoted for the AEM. At JSC Speed, I found the Hydra for $1495 and then aother $350 for the wideband unit. I saw the AEM for over $2K at pretty much every site. Shoot me a PM if you know of any deals going on. Thanks!
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:26 PM
  #15  
rlazer5000's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 653
Likes: 0
From: Chicago, IL
Nevermind, found the answer to my question.

Last edited by rlazer5000; Jul 18, 2005 at 11:54 AM.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:07 AM.