Autronic PnP board for Evo IX?
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From: JHB
Autronic support from Ray ***** in AUstralia sux. dood seems to be a one man band. As ive tuned a number of autronics STI and Evo 9 i must say that the Evo 9 ECU is the most tempramental crap out there and the ECU errors are never ending.
My 2c.
going forward im oushing Motec.
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going forward im oushing Motec.
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Because you are mentioning Mitsu dealers, which has connection with what exactly?!
If there is a statement that dealers can get 300whp on a stock car with open exhaust, WHICH PART YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND?! It is written in english not chinese, for instance
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Autronic support from Ray ***** in AUstralia sux. dood seems to be a one man band. As ive tuned a number of autronics STI and Evo 9 i must say that the Evo 9 ECU is the most tempramental crap out there and the ECU errors are never ending.
My 2c.
going forward im oushing Motec.
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My 2c.
going forward im oushing Motec.
A
my god...
because i read it as autronic dealers getting over 300whp with jsut an exhaust with the PnP.
but if i read it correctly, then his quote isnt making sense since the stock mitsu ecu can make that with just an exhaust.....
but if i read it correctly, then his quote isnt making sense since the stock mitsu ecu can make that with just an exhaust.....
Ray's expertise is second to none, as is the worldwide Autronic dealer network.
-Franz
PS. fwiw, I received news that there will be a SM4 based PnP for EVO5-7 & USDM8 in the near future.
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so this is not the autronic vs. stock question, but how many options you have after you switch to standalone ecu. closed loop EGT-boost-ignition control, for instance, which you cannot have with stock ecu. anti-lag, flatshift, per gear boost control and many other nice things
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Well let me be more specific then. the part of the ECU that handles the algorythims and numbers for the power delivery is briliant - second to none - even Motec. A fried of mine tuned the first SM4 Evo 9 in SA (Also 2 part board) and the rest are the final release board for true PnP.
Problems i have are wit the way Ray handles his business and more specificaly the customers. Not all dealers are equaly competent and equaly experienced, and i dont think Ray wants to hear or accept this. In part because his dealer in SA is not anywhere near the sise in business as the top boys.
The ECU base parameters are very thinly populated compated wit hthe subaru boards. the parameters are also wrong in comparison to the stock board - i mean the basics on idle, start, temp tables and other. Perhaps trivial but i expect a solid foundation and not to have to spend two days seting one up before getting on a dyno. In addition all the errors cant be figured out by the localy support and Mr Hall the arogant chop is not providing any answers. seems some thigns he will entertain when the outfome suits his development needs or product range. All else is off limits and to be sorted by his dealers - now again not all dealers are equal!
Performance on the Evo 9 is not as smooth as the Evo 8 and the Subaru SM4 boards. i really think he rushed this one, as the intrepolation seems lathargis. Cant describe any more - its a feel while in the cars and on the dyno.
LOL - but at least its a lot better than the stock board which has 8 maps and a hidden gremlin that messes with timing and fueling irespective of how well its tuned.
Motec - they send two guys from London to sort out one car in no time. all alswers provided openly and all descussion welcome with no attitude. if they dont know - then on the spot they get hold of someone who does.
Problems i have are wit the way Ray handles his business and more specificaly the customers. Not all dealers are equaly competent and equaly experienced, and i dont think Ray wants to hear or accept this. In part because his dealer in SA is not anywhere near the sise in business as the top boys.
The ECU base parameters are very thinly populated compated wit hthe subaru boards. the parameters are also wrong in comparison to the stock board - i mean the basics on idle, start, temp tables and other. Perhaps trivial but i expect a solid foundation and not to have to spend two days seting one up before getting on a dyno. In addition all the errors cant be figured out by the localy support and Mr Hall the arogant chop is not providing any answers. seems some thigns he will entertain when the outfome suits his development needs or product range. All else is off limits and to be sorted by his dealers - now again not all dealers are equal!
Performance on the Evo 9 is not as smooth as the Evo 8 and the Subaru SM4 boards. i really think he rushed this one, as the intrepolation seems lathargis. Cant describe any more - its a feel while in the cars and on the dyno.
LOL - but at least its a lot better than the stock board which has 8 maps and a hidden gremlin that messes with timing and fueling irespective of how well its tuned.
Motec - they send two guys from London to sort out one car in no time. all alswers provided openly and all descussion welcome with no attitude. if they dont know - then on the spot they get hold of someone who does.
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Autronic support from Ray ***** in AUstralia sux. dood seems to be a one man band. As ive tuned a number of autronics STI and Evo 9 i must say that the Evo 9 ECU is the most tempramental crap out there and the ECU errors are never ending.
My 2c.
going forward im oushing Motec.
A
My 2c.
going forward im oushing Motec.
A
if you can not get it to run correctly it is you or you have something wrong with your cars that you have over looked.Mark
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Well let me be more specific then. the part of the ECU that handles the algorythims and numbers for the power delivery is briliant - second to none - even Motec. A fried of mine tuned the first SM4 Evo 9 in SA (Also 2 part board) and the rest are the final release board for true PnP.
Problems i have are wit the way Ray handles his business and more specificaly the customers. Not all dealers are equaly competent and equaly experienced, and i dont think Ray wants to hear or accept this. In part because his dealer in SA is not anywhere near the sise in business as the top boys.
The ECU base parameters are very thinly populated compated wit hthe subaru boards. the parameters are also wrong in comparison to the stock board - i mean the basics on idle, start, temp tables and other. Perhaps trivial but i expect a solid foundation and not to have to spend two days seting one up before getting on a dyno. In addition all the errors cant be figured out by the localy support and Mr Hall the arogant chop is not providing any answers. seems some thigns he will entertain when the outfome suits his development needs or product range. All else is off limits and to be sorted by his dealers - now again not all dealers are equal!
Performance on the Evo 9 is not as smooth as the Evo 8 and the Subaru SM4 boards. i really think he rushed this one, as the intrepolation seems lathargis. Cant describe any more - its a feel while in the cars and on the dyno.
Problems i have are wit the way Ray handles his business and more specificaly the customers. Not all dealers are equaly competent and equaly experienced, and i dont think Ray wants to hear or accept this. In part because his dealer in SA is not anywhere near the sise in business as the top boys.
The ECU base parameters are very thinly populated compated wit hthe subaru boards. the parameters are also wrong in comparison to the stock board - i mean the basics on idle, start, temp tables and other. Perhaps trivial but i expect a solid foundation and not to have to spend two days seting one up before getting on a dyno. In addition all the errors cant be figured out by the localy support and Mr Hall the arogant chop is not providing any answers. seems some thigns he will entertain when the outfome suits his development needs or product range. All else is off limits and to be sorted by his dealers - now again not all dealers are equal!
Performance on the Evo 9 is not as smooth as the Evo 8 and the Subaru SM4 boards. i really think he rushed this one, as the intrepolation seems lathargis. Cant describe any more - its a feel while in the cars and on the dyno.
Originally Posted by fatbastard
PS. fwiw, I received news that there will be a SM4 based PnP for EVO5-7 & USDM8 in the near future.
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