what gain does SAFC tune make vs. stock?
Originally Posted by turbolarry
Way to make a sale. You really should do that for everyone outside of central Florida because that is what's better for the car. Something over the counter like leaning out the high map a little and topping out the timing to 18* isn't going to be as good as something custom. Of course I'm sure you do much more, look at the possabilities from flashing;
http://www.openecu.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
Both you and I know there are limitations from an AFC, just like there's limitations on $199.00 three time zones away.
Any of those threads from CA and on 91 octane?
http://www.openecu.org/index.php?title=Main_Page
Both you and I know there are limitations from an AFC, just like there's limitations on $199.00 three time zones away.
Any of those threads from CA and on 91 octane?
We will be remote custom tuning the Evolutionm.net project evo in the next few days LIVE via dynocam using our RemotEflash(tm) product to demonstrate its effectiveness.
Originally Posted by turbolarry
1. Everyone knows that an AFC doesn't control timing that's not the argumnet. Is it crude, ghetto, and all that? Yes. Does it work and make power? Yes.
Also, you know theres three parameters in tuning; fuel, timing and boost. Why would you only want to be able to adjust two of them??
Originally Posted by Phenix_fyah
I dont think theres a single person who isn't satisfied with their Tune from TTP. Well there are people......Just the people who haven't done one yet 
you can still use a flash + a safc for fine tuning, last time i looked a 4g63 is a dsm and people have benefited from a safc for years. a safc is a good choice for basic tunning but you must have general concept of tunning to use one.....any data logging software such as evoscan could also help you with the use of a safc.
Ive been messing with cars for yearssss. and before stand alones came about, that was always the way to go on a turbo cars. Flashed ecu and an AFC.
On my evo i had a mail in flash, so its kinda hard to get it were u want it. My A/F were around 10.8s. I then fine tuned it with my AFC and gain alot of WHP. By taking fuel out and bringing the A/F to mid high 11's.
Plus flashed ECU's dont compensate for change in wheather, That where my AFC comes in handy.
On my evo i had a mail in flash, so its kinda hard to get it were u want it. My A/F were around 10.8s. I then fine tuned it with my AFC and gain alot of WHP. By taking fuel out and bringing the A/F to mid high 11's.
Plus flashed ECU's dont compensate for change in wheather, That where my AFC comes in handy.
Ive been messing with cars for yearssss. and before stand alones came about, that was always the way to go on a turbo cars. Flashed ecu and an AFC.
On my evo i had a mail in flash, so its kinda hard to get it were u want it. My A/F were around 10.8s. I then fine tuned it with my AFC and gain alot of WHP. By taking fuel out and bringing the A/F to mid high 11's.
Plus flashed ECU's dont compensate for change in wheather, That where my AFC comes in handy.
On my evo i had a mail in flash, so its kinda hard to get it were u want it. My A/F were around 10.8s. I then fine tuned it with my AFC and gain alot of WHP. By taking fuel out and bringing the A/F to mid high 11's.
Plus flashed ECU's dont compensate for change in wheather, That where my AFC comes in handy.
This is WRONG. Dont spead lies.
The only reason I can see running a AFC, would be with a flash, for fine tuning or race gas.
But then again you can get "the cable" and ECUFlash for $80, alot cheaper then a AFC and harness, and be able to fine tune a flash or load a race gas map.
This is WRONG. Dont spead lies.
The only reason I can see running a AFC, would be with a flash, for fine tuning or race gas.
But then again you can get "the cable" and ECUFlash for $80, alot cheaper then a AFC and harness, and be able to fine tune a flash or load a race gas map.
The only reason I can see running a AFC, would be with a flash, for fine tuning or race gas.
But then again you can get "the cable" and ECUFlash for $80, alot cheaper then a AFC and harness, and be able to fine tune a flash or load a race gas map.
The way the AFC works is it tricks the ECU into thinking it is running at a lower load. If you look at the timing tables that are used in our cars you will notice that the timing increases at a certain RPM as the load is lower. By adding larger injectors you can pull even more fuel and move the "load cell" even lower adding even more timing. There is a oint at which your timing advance will be too much. I was running 780 and had an AFR of 10.4 with 24* at 7400 RPM in my opinion that is just way too much timing for pump gas at that RPM, especially 91oct. I have since started using Ecuflash. Is it harder to learn and tune than the AFC? YES. The nice thing about the AFC is you can tune it yourself and make adjustments on the fly. You can also make 2 maps one for race gas and one for pump gas.
