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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:18 AM
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Several doubts about evo VI TME

Well, since i didnt get any answere in the "Evo Advance" forum, i thought to post again here.

Right now i own an EVO VI TME, my actual setup is GT35R turbo, 750cc injectors, walbro FP, Huge FMIC, DNP exhaust manifold, 3.5" race downpipe and all the supporting mods.
As i still have the stock ECU, i had to install a fuel cut defencer to the MAF, boost cut in this model is MAF reading based, so i can boost more than 1.2 BAR, but fuel compensation is limited to about 480 WHP. Thats how much i'm pushing right now. (G-Tech Pro RR measured).

Well, here's the deal, i had some missfire at 1.3 bar, so gapped plugs to 0.65mm, missfire was solved and was abble to boost 1.7 bar. I know it's not the REAL solution, i know i need an ignition amplifier and i was looking at the HKS DLI2 amplifier, vendors says it for the EVO VIII +, and i need to know if it fits the EVO VI wiring. Plug n' Play would be ideal, but if a wiring change is needed, theres no problem, i can do it, but i need to know if i can use it.
That's my first doubt, my second one is that i need any kind of engine management, but here i really want a plug n play option.
Unfortunately there are no specific EVO VI parts for sale in USA, so i have to addapt to VII + parts.

Guys, i would really aprettiate your help, it's my only information source and i know there are plenty guys in here that know al lot about EVOs.

I'll be waiting for some answeres.

Thanks al lot.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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The DLI2 should work, I'd need to see the top of the engine and the coils to be 100% sure, but it should work with it if its oriented the same way as the VII and later.

The plug and play unit for the VII-VIII is preferrable even if the connectors are different because its least likely to damage the ignitors in the coils.

If its a two coil setup, you might want to get a set of new Evo8 coils also just so you know its compatible..

As far as I recall, the engine is mostly the same as the later engine, the major difference is some wiring to the ECU and that its not EOBD or OBD as the VII and Later would be for most markets.

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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Okay I just looked up the VI's engine configuration, the DLI2 Evo specific should work for you.
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Old Nov 5, 2006 | 02:52 PM
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Well here you have a picture of the coils. 3 wire connector.

And one of the current setup


So it would be Plug n' Play?
Do you know anything about a plug n play engine management option???
Thanks a lot malibujack.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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not to steal this thread but i have a 35r and almost same set up but 3" exhaust, are you maxing out the 750s or how are they working for you?
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I strongly recomend the latest plug n play ecu MOTEC M800 or Apex'i Power fc D'Jendro both eliminate the flow meter.I owned an EVO VI over 900hp filled up with HKS parts but due to a very good offer i sold it and had left in my store with these two brand new ecu's,i can assure you that i have never used them if you are interested i will be happy to help.You can send any agent you want to check the pick-up either ecu so you can see they are brand new boxed.
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Old Nov 6, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 9t1tsi
not to steal this thread but i have a 35r and almost same set up but 3" exhaust, are you maxing out the 750s or how are they working for you?
Right now we meassured 535 WHP. Injection maxed out because of the FCD. As the MAF signal was limited, i have no more compensation.
But i'm currently running a walbro fuel pump, the injectors and a FPR, 5 bar of fuel pressure at WOT.

TTOPPOUZI, i live in Chile, South America, i'm quite far away from you. You see, i have a GEMS ECU that i want to use in the car but i dont have the "dongle", it's supposed to be a litle circuit that conects to the laptop that allows to enter the GEMS ECU settings.
Anyway the motec ecu would be a great option as it can eliminate the MAF, how much do you want for it??.
BTW, do you have any pics of your evo's engine bay?? I would love to see it and also know wich your entire setup was.

Thanks a lot guys
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Old Nov 7, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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The Motec would be THE ECU to use in our cars. There is also a plug and play Hydra EMS in addition to the Power FC and Motec. However, if you are changing the coils I would caution that you will most likely need to do some type of modification to the ECU. I'm not sure, but if you change the coils the ECU may need different drivers. I am using the Hydra in my car right now. I have an 8MR turbo running 1.5 bar with FPR, FP, Injectors and Greddy exh. clutch and everything else stock.

However, saying all the above, I think you should consider an inspection of your car mechanically. You should not be getting misfires at 1.3 or even 1.7 bar. You should be able to run 1.7 bar on that turbo with the stock coils. Here in Hong Kong, we have some running 2 bar with stock coils on the HKS kit.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:43 AM
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The Motec would be THE ECU to use in our cars. There is also a plug and play Hydra EMS in addition to the Power FC and Motec. However, if you are changing the coils I would caution that you will most likely need to do some type of modification to the ECU. I'm not sure, but if you change the coils the ECU may need different drivers. I am using the Hydra in my car right now. I have an 8MR turbo running 1.5 bar with FPR, FP, Injectors and Greddy exh. clutch and everything else stock.

However, saying all the above, I think you should consider an inspection of your car mechanically. You should not be getting misfires at 1.3 or even 1.7 bar. You should be able to run 1.7 bar on that turbo with the stock coils. Here in Hong Kong, we have some running 2 bar with stock coils on the HKS kit.
Well, i'm not planning to change coils, i just want to install an HKS DLI2 ingnition amplifier. That should boost up my coils a lot.
Missfire gone when i gapped plugs to 0.75mm (dont know in inches), but i want the real solution.

BTW HOK, can you post or PM me some info about those ECU's and where to buy them, everytime i search trying to find EVO VI products, all i get are EVO VII+ parts.
Thanks everyone.

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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Nice ride man.. uhh.. where does that radiator hose lead to..?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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I noticed you have an atmosphere vented BOV.....hmmmm. How rich are you running? Are you having any issues with stalling? If so, the BOV is your problem.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by got boost??
Right now we meassured 535 WHP. Injection maxed out because of the FCD. As the MAF signal was limited, i have no more compensation.
But i'm currently running a walbro fuel pump, the injectors and a FPR, 5 bar of fuel pressure at WOT.

TTOPPOUZI, i live in Chile, South America, i'm quite far away from you. You see, i have a GEMS ECU that i want to use in the car but i dont have the "dongle", it's supposed to be a litle circuit that conects to the laptop that allows to enter the GEMS ECU settings.
Anyway the motec ecu would be a great option as it can eliminate the MAF, how much do you want for it??.
BTW, do you have any pics of your evo's engine bay?? I would love to see it and also know wich your entire setup was.

Thanks a lot guys
I can not find any pics of the engines car,but i will try to find and post to you.About the offering price send me a private msg in what is your budget for a motec m800 and i will see what i can do.Also i can help you with some evo vi parts.Just pm what are you looking for.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Nice ride man.. uhh.. where does that radiator hose lead to..?
to the radiator but on those pics wasn't installed yet
I noticed you have an atmosphere vented BOV.....hmmmm. How rich are you running? Are you having any issues with stalling? If so, the BOV is your problem
No stalling problems and afr at wot is at 12.5-13:1.
Finnaly i could connect to the GEMS ecu, downloaded the calibrations and sent them to the gems tech support, seems they are going to help me about the fuel pump issue, they said it might be a pin setting problem.

TTOPPOUZI, if i need any part, i'll let you know.

Thanks everyone for your help, everything has been usefull.
Thanks.

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