Its the text file attached to this thread at the beginning..

 

DOH! I'm not stupid, I swear!

yesterday was a long day.......



thanks !

 

Your going to have to do a little smoothing on the map, and since I had left the timing alone, you can actually add a few degrees in some areas, and remove a few degrees in others and pick up another 15 or so HP.. I'm planning on refinining this map a bit more with timing and smoothing of the fuel curve.. Unfortunately I'm a few days away from making this map obsolete for my modifications and moving onto the buschur stage 2, then stage 3 and 4 maps.. However with the new MAF sensor I'll be installing, and switching to closed loop boost control, its unlikely any of the future maps would be able to be used without massaging the low RPM settings and revising the boost map. Officially I'm waiting for TXS to release their new 1.4 flash before I really put alot of R&D time into new maps.


I started a new thread about posting your "Logged Pulls" with a third gear pull from 2500rpm to redline, (with or without AFR's from the TXS tuner) I can make fuel and timing suggestions based on those logs, and calculate (approximate) horsepower, even plot the data. I definitely recommend www.dataloglab.com if your going to do this to the extent that I have been.. Once you get the hang of the software, it provides alot of information and insight that would be more difficult to visualize from just the data. I also recommend installing and calibrating a MAP sensor even if you don't use the closed loop boost features, its invaluable for data logging.

 

what would happen if someone were to use the timing map from map 1 with your map? ( I know every car is different and some tweaking would be required )

 

Likely you'd lose a bit of power (20 or more HP) the "Stg1-New" map supplied with the utec is real conservative on timing. However I don't know what would happen, likely nothing bad, but if you do attempt it, keep a CLOSE eye on your data logs for knock.

 

Ok guys.. I made some refinements to the map to compensate for the Buschur Intake, MAF Pipe, Upper Intercooler pipes, and Intercooler..

As you can see, there were some gains thanks to the upgraded hardware, but the biggest gain was the boost staying a bit higher at higher RPM (Boost Still tapering, I suspect that the 1G Crushed DV is leaking a bit)

If you look at the torque curve, and boost curve, they look like copies of eachother.. If I can get stable boost at 21psi through redline (and back off on the timing and add a bit more fuel) I think I can pick up quite a bit of torque at higher RPM and even more horsepower.

One thing that is pretty obvious is my car just isn't like other cars, It wants me to add fuel instead of remove fuel to get my target AFR's around 11.25 (right now their at 11.5) and I had 1 knock event with 21 degrees of timing at 7000 or so RPM)

There are quite a few other notable details.. But It definitely looks different than any other car's data I've worked with.

One good bit of news is I'm not getting a severe boost spike to almost 23psi with it tapering off to 16 psi.. its staying a little more linear hitting about 21psi and dropping to around 18-19.. I'll attempt to use closed loop boost control when the MAP sensor bug is fixed and attempt to run 21psi through 6500rpm dropping to 19.5 through redline (until I get new head studs)

At this point my fuel injectors are approaching 85%, if I add more fuel (which I plan on it) I'm going to begin to hit the limits of my current fuel system so I don't want to make any additional changes until I get the new fuel pump installed.

But, the Intercooler, Upper Intercooler pipes, and MAF pipe didn't add alot of power, but it did normalize a few anomolies that I was having prior. (I think I gained around 20whp and 30wtq with the hardware, likely due to the more stable boost) However my 1G valve seems to be leaking boost.

 

One thing that concerns me is the car runs a bit leaner than I'm comfortable with when boost comes on.. Thats the first thing I'm going to address tomorrow... But I found the load site where adding fuel will benefit this a bit.. The problem is that this is a third gear pull, I normally wouldn't be in this load site during a regular run through the gears, but it should help drivability a bit.. Notice there's no knock whatsoever though..

Once I feel that I've adjusted my AFR to a level that I'm happy is safe.. I'm going to take it to the local dyno shop (I think they have an AWD Dynojet) and get some comparative numbers to see how off the software dyno is.. Honestly I don't know how these numbers compare.. Likely their on the high side. (as disapointing as that would be for me)

 

Turbo XS claim running 295whp with TB and Utec, can you tell me what setup have you done that is different from Turbo XS? These mods are very similar compares to yours. Thanks for your time.

 

at the time I did these I had a very similar setup, aftermarket air filter and a buschur turbo-back exhaust..

The numbers are a bit subjective since their going to be different depending on the Dyno source.. My numbers are gathered using Data Log Lab software and the logs from the UTEC, its also using a calibration file I originally created from estimates so its going to vary a bit from other dynos.. However its surprisingly close for similar configurations.

However, I am running higher boost than I'd ever recommend for another car, I have quite a few additional modifications now, and I've peaked over 320whp at this time, again, I don't know how accurate my numbers are, but their consistent run to run on my car..

But at the time I did my tuning with similar mods, its so close to what turboxs made, that I'd definitely say their claims are accurate..

 

GO FOR THE AEM

 

can u tell me more then just go for the aem??? doens't help much

 

LOL I was just thinking the same thing.. the AEM Rocks, but it seems to be overkill for most of what I intend to do with my car.. PLUS I do have an issue with being OBD-II compliant in order to pass emissions... But this is a bit offtopic.. there's other threads dedicated to this comparison.